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Old September 28th 06, 09:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Eric Greenwell
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KM wrote:
Paul Remde wrote:
Hi Yuliy,

Congratulations on taking the fun out of the OLC. Congratulations on making
some very helpful volunteers very frustrated. Congratulations on
discouraging cross country flight.


Paul, let me tell you what is taking the "fun" out of OLC.It was the
post from Doug on another part of this thread that explained how we can
take the sun angle down to 90 point some odd thousand of a degree so he
can measure sunset to the second.Somehow you and Doug have taken the
SSA mandate to remove flights that make us look bad down to the second?


You aren't getting that from Doug's posts: he has consistently said
there isn't a hard number for various reason, as have other posters. The
claim that the SSA is going to ask a pilot to remove a flight because it
is a few seconds, or even minutes, over is wrong.

You are making this far more difficult than it is. You really need to
skip this thread, do some flying, post your flights on the OLC, and sit
back and enjoy looking at the flights the other pilots are doing and are
happily posing every day.

Is this "fun" for you?How about we post a history of the 500 millbar
charts so we can correct everyones pressure altitude readout down to
the inch?


There is no need to do this, as the information is already in the flight
file - it's the elevation of the departure and arrival airports. This
will be adequate for almost all the flights. If, for unusual weather
situations (perhaps a frontal passage) or flights that cover a very
large area, an accurate surface barometric pressure is needed in middle
of the flight to resolve what appears to be a gross violation of an
altitude limit, that is readily available online from a variety of
sources. You don't need the 500 millibar charts, and we don't need to do
it to the inch to resolve an excess of hundreds of feet.

I'm surprised a professional pilot would make such a statement about
atltitude measurement. Don't you ever have get a barometric pressure
reading to correct your altimeter while you are flying?

When I started this thread I was hoping to get some insight
from real world OLC participants


You've gotten plenty of insight from real world participants who have
posted for years will no calls to remove their flights, but you appear
to ignore it in favor of a few pilots unhappy with posting limitations
on flights that show "substantial" variations from the FARS. Since you
plan to fly well within the FARs, you should know by now that YOU will
have no problems. So, why do you continue to worry about this?

after all the flaming I read on the
"sunset " thread.Now I am begining to see where all the contention is
originating.I kind of doubt the SSA OLC board had this in mind when
they ask you to remove posts from
pilots who have busted a reg.


I would not be in the least bit sorry if I never read any more postings from
you


Do you have to get personal?Yuliy's post was kinda funny (Made me
laugh).You called my post useless and now you suggest who shouldnt post
he


Paul never called your post "useless". At least, I couldn't find it,
even with a Google Groups search, but if you'll point out the post, I'll
be happy to read it. And, he did not suggest Yuily shouldn't post here,
only that he didn't want to read his posts.

As a business owner, you might want to consider how you are coming
off.I spoke with you a few weeks ago about a 302 upgrade that I am
planning this winter.Has it occured that you are not the only Cambridge
dealer around?


I hope he hasn't considered it when it comes to posting here, as I think
we'd lose some very useful comments. I'm appalled that you consider
Paul's stand one issue is a suitable reason to buy somewhere else, and
attempt to silence him with an economic threat.

If Paul's only interest in the sport was to suck as much money off the
participants, he'd just be posting happy talk about all the great stuff
he has to sell you. Paul is committed to this sport because he thinks
it's a great one, and he works hard at making it better. He does this in
a variety of ways, from very helpful comparison tables on his website,
to running glider software classes at the conventions, and now the
Contest Manager for the 2007 18M/Open Nationals.

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