"Bob Moore" wrote in message
30 degrees angle of bank is not a steep turn, 45-60 degrees is.
REF...FAA Airplane Flying Handbook 9-1..
The steep turn maneuver consists of a turn in either
direction, using a bank angle between 45 to 60°. This
will cause an overbanking tendency during which
maximum turning performance is attained and
relatively high load factors are imposed. Because of the
high load factors imposed, these turns should be
performed at an airspeed that does not exceed the
airplane's design maneuvering speed (VA). The
principles of an ordinary steep turn apply, but as a
practice maneuver the steep turns should be continued
until 360° or 720° of turn have been completed.


Yes, you are of course correct. She did say steep turns were 45-60 degrees.
I should have said 'steeper' turns.


What happened to 'slow flight', 'ground reference maneuvers',
and 'traffic pattern' instruction and practice?

We're talking about a Skyfox Gazelle here, so all flight is 'slow flight'
:-) This is essentially an ultra light, or what you in the US would call
your 'Sport Class' aircraft. I won't have a PPL at the end of this, but a
Recreational Pilots Certificate. I will be able to transfer to a PPL at the
end with I think 5 hours and a checkride, plus an exam I think.

Sounds as if your instructor is doing the old 'walking before
crawling' routine.


The syllabus I am following is from a set of manuals for ultra light pilots.
The order of lessons straight from the text is:

1. Effects of Control
2. Straight and level flight
3. medium turns
4. climbing
5. descending
6. climbing turns
7. descending turns
8. Basic stall recovery
9. Circuits and landings
10. Simulated engine failure in the circuit
11. Simulated engine failure after take off
12. crosswind circuits and landings
13. Advanced stall recovery
14. sideslip approaches
15. forced landings
16. Precautionary search
17. Level steep turns
18. Steep descending turns
19. short field technique.

So, I am progressing through this in the correct documented order (for an
ultra light pilots syllabus). If one is to get through this in the minimum
20 hours, one must surely progress through it at a rate not all that
dissimilar to the rate at which I am. (I would have thought!) Sure, if I
need longer on a particular subject, then I'll spend more time on it.
Crash Lander