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Old October 10th 06, 03:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Edwin Johnson
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Default Landing on a sloping runway with different wind velocities

On 2006-10-09, Tony Cox wrote:
Here's a problem which seems to have a non-trivial solution.
At least, I've not been able to find a definitive answer to it, but
what do I know??


Rule of thumb responses are interesting, but better would be
a full mathematical treatment. Presumably, a proper treatment


Tony, in "Mountain Flying Bible" the author Sparky Imeson was once
discussing this and a physics professor handed him a formula which is
published in that book. It is the beakeven wind speed for taking off uphill
into wind and downhill with a tailwind. Hopefully it formats correctly here.
If wind is less, takeoff downhill and if more take off uphill.

Vbe = (s * d) / 5 * V

Whe
Vbe = breakeven speed in knots
s = slope up in degrees
d = POH distance to liftoff with 0 slope and 0 wind in feet
V = volocity of liftoff speed in knots TAS

Sparky says that as a rule of thumb, if wind is less than 15 kts take off
downhill. If more than 15 kts take off uphill, provided obstacle clearance
can be maintained.

As in everything, academics and practical may not be the same, depending on
airplane's performance and pilot proficiency.

I've not tested the above, but Sparky Imeson is a recognized authority in
mountain flying and has done much of it as well as teaching many courses in
such. At least something to consider.

....Edwin
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