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Old November 28th 06, 09:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Jim Macklin
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Default Instrument Student Pilot Filing IFR

The reason is in the FAR, you have to be a certificated and
current instrument rated pilot, in an aircraft certified for
IFR flight to file an IFR flight plan.

Simply filing the flight plan OR operating in IMC condition
is a violation. IFR flight plan in VMC is a violation
unless the PIC NAMED, not just PIC is legal.



"Roy N5804F" wrote in
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| Well thanks to all for the input so far.
| The consensus seems to be that an instrument student
cannot file an IFR plan
| in his own name.
| The basis of that opinion seems to hinge on who is PIC.
| I am not sure, but I think that electronic filing via AOPA
flight planner
| would not give you any opportunity to use other than your
own name ?
| So maybe all filing would have to be done via the
telephone or radio.
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| Roy
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| "Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message
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| Technically the name on the flight plan must be that of
the PIC, which
| in this case is the CFII. However, I doubt that anyone
would care whose
| name is on the flight plan as long as there is a
qualified PIC in the
| cockpit. Just the same as ATC does not care what you use
for navigation
| as long as you fly your clearance. The only time a
question would arise
| is in case of an accident or emergency. In those cases
it would not
| matter whose name was on the flight plan. The presumed
PIC will be at
| fault. In the case of a dual flight, the CFI is the
presumed PIC even
| if he was not actively instructing.
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| Roy N5804F wrote:
| Is it legal for a non-instrument rated pilot to file
IFR in his own name
| in
| order to undergo instrument training while accompanied
by his CFII ?
| In other words.
| Who should file IFR for a training instrument flight ?
The student or the
| CFII ?
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| Thanks for input
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| Roy
| Piper Archer N5804F
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