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A Lieberma wrote:

Mxsmanic wrote in
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"Jim Macklin" writes:

As filed, flight plans are not flown. VFR might well be
just as simple as telling FSS VFR, Washington DC ,
Indianapolis, St. Louis, Destination Kansas City [the phrase
close enough for government work comes to mind.]
My actual plan would have many points for visual and radio
navigation.

You're saying that you only put a few simple indications on the form
but you fly a more detailed plan?

I try to figure out lots of waypoints for VFR flights ... mainly
because there are so many restricted areas and Class-whatever
airspaces that I have to go through or avoid. If these didn't exist,
I could just look out the window in many cases; but since the chart
lines aren't marked on the real terrain, I try to have enough
waypoints figured out in advance so that I can be sure I'll be in the
right place at the right point from a regulatory standpoint.

An IFR plan is more detailed, but might only have a
departure airport, a SID and airway and a STAR and might
only have the airway, the feds will assign the SID and STAR
anyway.

Do you normally get arrival and departure procedures when you request
the IFR clearance, or does the arrival procedure not come up until you
are approaching your destination?

I've had a lot of trouble programming a FMS with procedures on the
fly, which is why I ask. I also have to try to dig up charts on the
spur of the moment, which is awkward.

Not one word in this post saying he is playing a game called MSFS and not
flying a real plane

So what? It's a reasonable question. What difference does it make what
his motivation is for asking it?

rg