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Old February 23rd 07, 04:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
A Guy Called Tyketto
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Mxsmanic wrote:
A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

When you hear it from the controller who has put it to
practical use, and has the qualifications and certifications to operate
that position, and reference it from the same source, that gives one
the certainty.


Certainty comes from seeing it on paper.


You have it. The URLs I posted here come from the airports
websites, let alone the Airport Authority. If you can't believe those,
then you don't even need to be in this thread, let alone in this group,
let alone having anything to do with aviation.

But even if you were right, then your claim that it is publicly available
would be wrong. You can't have it both ways.


But I can, and do. See below for why.

If Steven or Newps told you the same exact thing, and knowing
that their qualifications can be validated, would you refuse to believe
them?


Yes. They are just names on a screen; and even if they proved to be
controllers, unless all controllers are perfect, that isn't sufficient to make
them sources of certainty.


They work to ensure your safety in the sky. And their
certifications/qualifications are also available. If you would only use
your brain to find that information, you would see that. But then
again, my asking you to use your brain is like trying to clap with one
hand. Can't, nor ever will happen.

Wait, don't answer that. You wouldn't believe your own mother if
she came up to you, slapped you in the face, and shouted the answer in
your ear.


She's not a controller, either, nor is she an official document.

If you are who you say you are, you would know more than well
enough to RTFM.


But that wouldn't help, if I need to talk to a controller to be certain.

Which is the final authority? Written documentation or the words of a
controller? If it's a controller, RTFM won't do. If it's RTFM, controller
talk doesn't matter.


Simple. BOTH are final authority. Standard operations are what
controllers have to follow. Standard operations, such as the noise
abatement procedures, are written and publically available. Controllers
execute those operations on a daily basis. They follow what is on
paper. That paper is the final authority. Therefore, those controllers
and paper are final authority, and both are right. so once again, RTFM.

Heh. The Dilbert Rule is definitely applying to you.

BL.
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