"Newps" wrote in message
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They asked if you were ready to copy, you said yes. Then they read you
your clearance. Pretty cut and dried.

I'll take your word for it but it seems cut and dried only for a clearance
delivery. It was a separate step of activation that I was missing.


Or, did they expect me to get a "release" from Grand Rapids.

ATC never issues a clearance and then has you get a release from AFSS.

I'll agree with that. "Grand Rapids" referred to Grand Rapids Approach who
handled me until handoff to Lansing Approach then to Flint Approach.

That would make no sense as the release can only come from the guy who
just read you your clearance.

That seems like a strong statement that only applies in a small number of
scenarios. My experience is that I very rarely get a release from the guy
who just read me my clearance.


Even if they
did expect me to get the "release" from Grand Rapids, how would Grand
Rapids know that? Is there an originating entity indicated in the
(presumably) computerized flight strips?

Did I confuse Grand Rapids in my initial call?


Yes. Cleared to...is as clear as it gets.

Unless it's in the wrong context. Every time I get a clearance from
Clearance Delivery on the ground I get a "Cleared to ..." but that doesn't
consitute a release.


You are making this way too hard. You received a clearance from a
controller. That's as good as it gets.


Everyone seems to agree so I'll take this lesson and move on.

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Travis
Lake N3094P
PWK