From Fallbrook (L18) I'll normally fly to POM then V197 direct to PMD.
Going through Cajon Pass and then over towards Palmdale would actually
increase your exposure to potential UAV activity near Adelanto. See my
recent post under 'high winds in Palm Springs' regarding UAV activity
in the area. Personally, I have yet to spot one -- but that doesn't
mean they aren't on my six. :-) If you do overfly Palmdale (what
was that suggestion for knowing when your over a point? Roll inverted
and look up?) take a moment to scan the ramp. On various flights in
the past I've seen SR71s and U2s sitting on the tarmac there.

Ah. Good info. Thanks. I will certainly take a look at the POM
V197 and see what that does for me. The SR71 ain't got nothing on my
warrior. :-)



Calling Joshua Approach is excellent advice. Although I've yet to
be lucky enough to get permission to transit any of their restricted
airspace, they will help you avoid hazards in and around their
airspace.

If you're flying by pilotage, the 'shore' of the bone dry Rosamond Lake
is pretty well defined when viewed from the air, so you can easily
thread between Palmdale, Fox and and the restricted/MOA areas if you
are flying low -- just aim for the south west point of the lake.

It sound as if I don't fly over the lake and I should be ok. I was
actually thinking of skirting along mountain headed NW, and then when
clear of the Delta airspce head more northerly and intercept Rosemond
heading East. Flying at 6500/7500 and clearing the Delta and
decending for a direct in would be a fast descent. (My rambling
thoughhts...)

So If I am above 6000 I can go right through the R-2515 area? I get
way freaked out with the MOA & Restricted stuff... I am gonna go dig
up my AIM/FAR and see what is says.

You definitely want to talk to Joshua Approach -- do not just
'go right through' R-2515.

Not that one should count on this in general, but in the 'Midair
Collision Avoidance Handbook' provided by the Edwards test pilot
referenced in the Palm Springs thread, it says:

"Additionally, to avoid spilling out the lateral boundaries
of R-2508 Complex (the FAA frowns on such transgressions),
military pilots often give themselves a 3-5 mile buffer
along all boundaries."

For good reason, R-2508 itself is not depicted on the sectional since
it extends from FL200 on up. But the footprint matches basically all
of the Edwards resticted and MOA airspace depicted on the chart, hence
the entire collection of Edwards special use airpsace is referred to as
the R-2508 Complex.

So if the MOA is cold, a hot R-2515 should have a nice safety buffer
on the inside of the restricted area boarder. A comforting thought,
although it isn't guaranteed.

Have a safe flight.

Steve


Thans for the info Steve, that is very helpful.

Mike Alexander
PP-ASEL
Temecula, CA
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