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Old April 29th 07, 04:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Stew Hicks
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Default Zenith Aircraft and Pull Type Rivets

The question at hand has been well covered by the answers so far, you may be
interested in the 'reverse' of the pop vs. solid rivet question.
When I built my Zenith, CH200 from plans I decided, or maybe was talked into
doing the skins in solid flush rivets. In consulting with Chris, he said,
'use one dash smaller in solid rivets", therefore my skins are done in -3
and -4 solid rather than -4 and -5 Avex 'Pop' rivets. It doesn't make the
plane any stronger, or weaker, just different.
When I built the prototype CH801 I used all Avex Pop rivets everywhere
except the structure that called for solid rivets. All hand pulled by the
way and I never found hand pulling to be a particular chore. If the whole
plane was ready to rivet at once I can see where the power puller would be a
godsend but who has that many clecos?

Stew



"Andrew" wrote in message
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CC: Zenith Aircraft Company

I have an aeronautical engineer friend retired from McDonnell
Douglas who once was in charge of the Harrier project for the U.S.
team. I respect his opinion which is that pull type, "pop" rivets are
only used on aircraft where a bucked rivet could not possibly be used
or on non-critical, low stress applications.

It is my understanding that the bucked rivet, which has been
used over the years in aluminum aircraft, is stronger than the pull-
type pop rivet. In consideration of the Zenith Aircraft 601 and 701,
how is it that they are using a Textron Brand pull-type rivet? Has
there been some breakthrough in material or design in theses Textron
pop rivets making them comparable to the old style "bucked" rivets?


Thanks,
Andrew