On May 14, 12:18 pm, Barnyard BOb wrote:
Richard Riley wrote:
But think about it this way. Imagine someone that wrote about how
wonderfully the RV-3 zoom climbs, how much fun it is and how well the
airplane does it - when he's never done it himeslf? Would he bear any
responsibility for the people that try it and shed their wings?

NOPE.
Not according to the NTSB records concerning the Capella fatalities.

That's what Campbell did here. He told the boys, and the world, that
the Capella was able to handle aerobatics that it couldn't handle. He
said he'd done it. They went out and tried it, and they died. I'm
not saying that Zoom was the only one responsible, or even that he has
primary responsibility for it. But I think he has his part.

This is hearsay, fast and loose talk and speculation, IMO.

What authority states the Capella cannot safely perform
the aerobatics in question WHEN EXECUTED PROPERLY?
It is designed to 6.5 g's....
For reference, the Pitts S-2C is only approved for + 6 g's.

Who sez the maneuvers in question cannot be done
at less than 6.5 g's???? AFAIK, all can be done below 4 g's.

For now, I have to see it the way the NTSB reports it.

These "boys" had no licenses, no registration for the N number on the
aircraft, etcetera, etcetera, and are typical of a deadly accident
going somewhere to happen.. with or without the 'assumed' Zoom input.

From dialog I've read so far...
It appears they had no regard or respect for rules, regulations or
listened to much of anything from anybody; a deadly combination
of factors for anyone not knowing how to fly in the first place.

Had Zoom told these kids to get flying lessons and aerobatic
instruction before they killed themselves through trial and error...
would they take that to heart anymore than the requirements
of the FAA or any authority that they were already violating?!?!?

I wouldn't bet the ranch on this pair of free spirits living a minute
longer than they did.

Your CONJECTURE may vary.

- Barnyard BOb -

Totally true, unless proven otherwise, as you say...except for one,
haunting little problem:

I've seen Zoom's "Cowboy Writings" on Aviation and performing deeds in
aircraft that are not possible. Even if he did one and got lucky
enough not to fail the aircraft and kill himself in the process, some
other poor schmuck could go out there, based on Zoom's pilot report,
try the stunt himself and get killed.

Mind you, it's not relevant whether documentation exists that proves
he killed someone. It is even more relevant that documentation by
Zoom exists that could potentially kill someone, even if it already
hasn't. That is what needs to be identified and stopped, and that is
just one of the things that identifies Zoom as a danger to flying.
His cowboy bragging and "advice" to others.

Diverging a little at this point from the serious:

There's an old joke about "Monkey See Monkey Do," in which a guy
taunts a gorrila at a Zoo. The guy does something, the gorilla
follows suit. Until such time as the guy pulls out a huge salami,
tries to fake the Gorilla out by slicing it off between his legs, to
see if the Gorilla will be stupid enough to cut off his own "Salami."

Sorry for the lack of class or taste in this "joke" but the punchline
is critical:

When the guy slices off the salami, the Gorilla looks him in the eye
with a smile and gives him the finger!

Meaning ~ just like with Zoom ~ there are some monkeys out there that
can't be fooled! Quite a large number of them in fact.

Zoom may not have killed anyone, since there are a lot of people out
there smarter than Zoom, and frankly, there are a lot of Monkeys out
there who are smarter than Zoom and would tell you that Darwin's
Theory that man evolved from Ape is a repugnant joke pulled by men on
monkeys.

All they'd have to do is point to Zoom and they'd win the argument
hands down.

So, it would be a very important milestone to prove that someone
listened to Zoom and died as a result of his misinformation; more
important that hopefully no one listened to Zoom and as a result,
didn't die, because speaking personally as a Journalist, that
statistic is far more impressive and I prefer it over the one that
would get Zoom into trouble; if you love mankind, you don't root for
Zoom to screw up and kill men/wome/children; and it's MOST important
that he's out there putting misinformation out there that COULD kill
someone and first and foremost, that misinformation must be stopped...

....and the most important thing of all...and here's where I diverge
from the serious towards humor and irony:

Ham, a monkey, made a spaceflight before any man ever did.

Ham, a monkey, made it into a rocket some four decades before Zoom
did...and Zoom still hasn't climbed into the rocket yet. Only in his
wildest dreams and those usually involve a fine looking woman, or
worse, showing any willingness to procreate with him.

A man put Ham in the capsule...

Monkeys are still ****ed about Mankind's cowardice as expressed by
this act...

WORSE!!! (Emphasis, not screaming...well, maybe just a little g)

How do you think you'd feel if someone told you Zoom evolved from
you? The "Complex" monkeys are developing over the report that Zoom
evolved from them is far more seriously diverged from the term "Launch
Complex" that man developed for them in the days when Cape Canaveral
preceeded Cape Kennedy.

Screw the FAA! They're not going to do anything about Zoom! Just the
same, we need to stop Zoom and the complex he's giving to monkeys.

It's time to call PETA and file a complaint with them! GGG

Because Zoom killing other men don't mean s~t to monkeys!

Men stating Zoom evolved from Monkey is enough to cause Monkeys to
kill! Now THAT means SOMETHING! THAT'S something we should REALLY
worry about!!!!!

joking, running, ducking, just not from Zoom...)

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