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seems to me the owner's manual on our Mooney says limits are 60 
degrees bank and 30 degrees pitch. It also says the airplane should 
not be spun. 
 
I could be wrong about that. 
 
As for practice of these manouvers? Do whatever you like. Probably it 
would not be wise to post here, though, except as a hypothetical 
question. There's nothing like a written record to influence courts or 
insurance companies. 
 
T 
 
 
 
 
On Jun 24, 11:30 am, Ron Wanttaja  wrote: 
 On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 15:15:25 -0000,  wrote: 
 Be sure your airplane is certified for 60 degree pitch! 
 
 No airplane is "certified for 60 degree pitch".  Sixty degrees pitch qualifies 
 as an aerobatic maneuver.  Airplanes *are* certified for aerobatics, but that is 
 solely a limitation on G-loading.  Dick's description of the maneuver ("...60* 
 pitch & 60* bank at 90* point to entry. Then at 0 mph, the nose falls...") 
 sounds unlikely to exceed the positive G limits for normal category. 
 
 Finally, the maneuver where Dick describes reaching 60 degrees of pitch is a 
 blind canyon escape maneuver, where you suddenly discover you've got granite 
 ahead and on both sides.  It's the choice of the maneuver or going 
 two-dimensional on the canyon wall.  Might I gently suggested that if you're 
 ever faced with the choice between A) Death or B) Violating FAA regs, that you 
 select B)? 
 
 Ron Wanttaja 
 
 
 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
			
 
			
			
			
				 
            
			
			
            
            
                
			
			
		 
		
	
	
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