On Aug 3, 1:16 pm, Andy Blackburn
wrote:
At 18:54 03 August 2007, Bill Daniels wrote:







'BB' wrote in message
oups.com...
O One pilot who didn't make it in told me, 'you either
need to be real good or real bad to get into Parowan'.
He was referring to reverse seeding and allowing anyone
within region 9 to enter regardless of seeding. I'm
not taking a position on these controversial programs,
but is this what we the rules committee had in mind?
World class pilots racing against rank beginners?
Just some food for thought,
JJ

It strikes me we want a third category of contest.
Let's call it a
'national regional'. One week long, run by regional
rules -- multiple
classes, 92 seeding points, etc. -- but with national
ranking
determining entry, and no reverse seeding in sports
class (as in
sports nationals).

This seems appropriate when the goal, and success
of the contest, is
to draw top pilots nationally, perhaps to a site where
rank beginners
really shouldn't be flying, and/or a site that is
far from the usual
pilot and volunteer base of a region. Seniors already
does this by
waiver, and this seems like the right structure for
Parowan.
Obviously, the choice whether to run it this way or
as a regular
regional stands with the organizers, whichever way
they think will
produce a more successful, fun, and safe contest.

I'm sure if there is any reason this is a bad idea,
the critical minds
of r.a.s. will figure it out. If not, let's suggest
it to the rules
committee.

John Cochrane

I think 'Western National' sounds better than 'Regional
National' but it's
a great idea.

Bill Daniels

Out west I think Parowan is one of the better sites
for newbies - at least in terms outlanding possibilities.
The Air Force cadets had a good time this year I think
and it was good to have them - though technically they
didn't consume any entry spots.

It seems that Parowan is sapping participants from
the other western regionals, so it would be interesting
to see what the effect would be if you held a western
'national' contest there. Would Minden, Hobbs, Montague,
Moriarty, Phoenix, pop up as as the 'hot' regional.
Or you could try for the western 'national' contest
at Ely - that place is definitely not for newbies,
plus you can carry water ballast. There would be all
the operational details to work out of course.

Guess it depends on what problem you're trying to solve.

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I also agree that Parowan is a wonderfull soaring site. It only has
one huge problem for contests except for Sports Class, no water. I
was also concerned about the long takeoff runs and the absence of
places to go if you had a rope problem.


Richard Pfiffner
www.craggyaero.com