Danny Deger wrote:

I was speaking a bit tongue and cheek about the p-factor. It has none.
I should a put a :-) after the statement.

But it really does have very little yaw engine out. Engine out in a
light twin is probably harder to handle than if an F-4.

In the modern day Air Force we call a two ship formation an element.
Any Navy guys out there. Do y'all call it a section.

Danny Deger

I get caught myself every time I forget that damn smilie thinge :-))

I'm not a Naval Aviator but I've done quite a lot of energy
maneuverability research with them flying T38's and have a few hours in
the F14 doing ACM.
Section is the common term used in the Navy for an element pair whether
in fighting wing or double attack spread formation which is the old
loose deuce section. The section in DA can be split between lead and the
wing as to who is engaged at any instant in time.
I've been away from the military end of things for some time now but I
believe section is still the term used as far back as fighter lead in
for a basic pair.
Dudley Henriques