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Old August 6th 07, 03:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.piloting
Danny Deger
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Default FAA "Centers" have primary radar?

"BT" wrote in message
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what was the altitude.. where you below the "radar horizon" for the range
from the antenna?
Was the "target aircraft" in a "blind radar area for the altitude" based
on a close in obstruction such as earth or building?


Good question, but wouldn't the things you talk about affect the secondary
radar as well.

They were out over the Atlantic Ocean in a miltary Warning Area under the
control of Washington Center. After the acident, we were all briefed if we
lost our transponder Washington Center could not paint us. Apparently this
is not true for Centers in general. Maybe it had to do with Washington
Center's radar coverage out over the Atlantic.

You can read the details in my free book you can get at my web site
www.dannydeger.net. Look on page 31. I have lots of other good flying
stories in the book you might enjoy.

Danny Deger

B

"Danny Deger" wrote in message
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"Bob" wrote in message
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On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 15:43:29 -0500, "Danny Deger"
wrote:

In another thread I am in a discussion on radar capability for FAA
"Centers". My recollection is that they typically have no primary
radar,
thus no capability to paint weather. Someone is telling me they do.
Anybody out there have the answer. Maybe some do and some don't, and
the
ones I used in the past don't.

"FAA Primary En Route Long Range Radar Restructuring Program
The FAA currently uses and supports 126 primary en route radar
facilities. The FAA is chartered to provide Primary radar services to
all federal agencies requiring this data to meet their operational
missions."
http://www.faa.gov/asd/ia-or/longrangeradar.htm


Thanks for the link. I found it very useful. I think my confusion comes
from an accident where a friend of mine died because Washington Center
lost radar contact when he lost his transponder. He was out over the
ocean in a warning area. We were briefed Washington Center had no
ability to skin paint. I am starting to realize this probably had to do
only with this situation of being over the ocean in a warning area and
Centers in general have skin paint capable radars.

If anyone is interested in the details of this fatal flight, I put them
in my book, "Houston, You Have a Problem" and you can get it for free at
www.dannydeger.net

Danny Deger