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Old August 22nd 07, 09:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Big John
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Default P-51's, Aces: A Special Gathering


Bob

Since you know it all and put in Caps like a kid in kindergarten, how
many Germans made Ace against the P-51????

Big John
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:14:23 -0700, Rob Arndt
wrote:

On Aug 21, 9:20?pm, tomcervo wrote:
On Aug 21, 9:12?pm, Rob Arndt wrote:





On Aug 21, 5:48?pm, tomcervo wrote:


On Aug 21, 8:40?pm, Rob Arndt wrote:


The facts are that the Me Bf 109 is the gretest killing a/c in history
with the most kills and aces made.


However did they lose the war?


It lived on beyond its Third Reich 1935-45 timeframe too.


Nearly losing the war for the Israelis. Thank God for the Spitfire,
eh?


So what Tom? Is that all you got? What excuse does the unbombed
continental US Arsenal of Democracy have for not producing all better
a/c that should have surpassed the Me Bf 109, the German jets, and all
their advanced designs that the Allies used postwar in windtunnel
data, prototypes, and some operational a/c?


The US best ace, Richard Bong, flew a Lightning in the PTO and was
killed by a XP-80. Where are all your P-51 Mustang aces to compare
with the German Experten on lethal 109s? They weren't ****- they only
held air superiority in numbers. Hell, even the primitive Russians
kicked the US aces asses with more kills in inferior a/c.


**** the P-51... it wasn't even **** until the redesigned D-Model
anyway and the Me Bf 109Gs and Ks were not obsolete in 1945... just
outnumbered 11-to-1 in the air.


Hartmann, the ace of aces, said that the Mustang was nothing special.
I concur wholeheartedly.


Even Italians and Romanians shot down Mustangs...


Ponder that Tommy-boy.


Rob


And yet they lost the war. Ponder that.- Hide quoted text -

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Ponder this Tom- NO USAF OR ANY OTHER NATIONAL AF PILOT WILL EVER BEAT
HARTMANN'S SCORE OR THE SCORES OF MANY GERMAN ACES FROM THE 100 MARK
UP. I DOUBT ANY USAF PILOT WILL EVER BEAT THE RED KNIGHT'S SCORE OF 80
FROM WW 1. THEY CERTAINLY DID NOT IN WW2 OR ANY WAR THEREAFTER!

40 is a pathetic number in terms of German ace scores.

Rob