On Aug 24, 4:50 pm, EridanMan wrote:


Hearing your story does make me wonder though, I always just assumed
that my comfort in controlled airspace was merely a result of being
'brought up' (primary training) at a class Charlie field (OAK) under a
Bravo Shelf, and that the people who were skittish of controlled
airspace just lacked the practice/comfort with ATC. I wonder though
how much of that impression also comes from the fact that on the whole
I've always found the norcal guys to be so polite, friendly and
accommodating. Is that unusual? Are some Controlled airspaces more
intimidating than others?


I don't think liveatc doesn't have it anymore, but you need to hear
DTW when they're reversing their runways g. (Extreme hyperbole
follows) It seems like they don't give a bravo clearance if there is a
wisp of a cloud in the area g