Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bob Moore wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote
The first thing new instructors have to be taught as they become
instructors is that there are base differences between teaching in
a
classroom that isn't moving and teaching in a classroom that is
moving at 100 mph plus.
This is what is wrong with most flight instruction. A professional
Flight Instructor does not teach in a 100 mph classroom. Done
properly, ALL instruction is done in the classroom (briefing room)
and then the student is allowed to practice in the airplane.

My qualifications...first, the US Navy sent me to a two month "How
to
Instruct" course. I would then teach that course for two years.
Second, I received my FAA Flight Instructor Certificate in a
professional Part 141 Training Center. Third, I completed an FAA
approved Part 121 Airline Flight Instructor Training Program. I
would
later, as Mgr Flightcrew Training, be responsible for developing
and
implementing such programs at other airlines. Fourth, I did manage
a
staff of about 8 instructors in the Jet Training Division of the
old
Burnside-Ott Flight Training Center at Opaloca Airport in Miami.

Bob Moore
Is there anything about the following sentence taken from an earlier
post of mine in this thread that you are having trouble
understanding?
Dudley Henriques wrote;
"Many instructors in my opinion make a HUGE mistake by trying to
teach
everything about everything while the student is flying the
airplane.
"

Of COURSE a flight instructor teaches in a 100mph plus classroom,
and
in even faster classrooms in higher performance aircraft. This in no
way should be construed as you have attempted to do here into
meaning
that a flight instructor should use the time in the aircraft to
teach
what should have been covered on the ground both during the
preflight
and post flight phases of a dual session.
There is a place for detailed instruction and that is NOT while the
student is under the stress of flying the aircraft.
Your premise that ALL instruction is done in the classroom and
allowing the student to "practice" in the aircraft is not exactly
correct. It is more correct that theory and procedure are taught on
the ground and closely monitored and corrected practice with the
student is done in the air. To say that no instruction is performed
in
the air is incorrect. It is however correct to say that all
instruction in the air be restricted to it's simplest common
denominator, allowing the student to error and correct with verbal
guidance. It is during the post flight debrief that the more
detailed
instruction should take place. To address your basic premise, I
believe you might want to re-read what I have said in this thread
about what constitutes proper flight instruction technique. With a
few
minor changes, we are not that far apart, but make no mistake,
flight
instruction does indeed take place in a moving classroom. Ground
instruction takes place in a classroom.



Ever heard the one about the three blind men examining an elephant?


Bertie
Hi Bertie; howgozit? Hope you're well these days.

not too bad, thanks.
I agree. Much of it is in perspective. I think all of us are
approaching
the basic premise from different directions. The macro is intact but
the
micros are in flux :-)


Well, exactly. I agree with your stance though. The airplane is a
classroom in itself. A good airplane is a better instructor than the
instructor is. but the point i think you are trying to make is that
while the student is practicing whatever, you gotta shout some
additional instruction his way. Otherwise dual would be pointless.
after all, if he goes out and practices it all wrong after his thorough
classroom briefing what's he learned?


Bertie



Exactly! I think the main point if you were to reduce everything down to
it's lowest common denominator would be that there are actually two
teaching personas that the CFI has to master; the first is the teacher
who covers what needs to be covered on the ground in the manner best
suited for that scenario (this would be the classroom approach).
The second is a teaching personna that knows how to simplify, observe
,direct and correct with minimal interference while the airplane is in
motion. This second teaching personna is what we usually have to "teach"
people coming into the flight instruction business from a formal
professional teaching background. It's usually a quick transition if the
"teacher" is amenable and able to adjust to this added dimension
required of a good flight instructor.
I totally agree with you that the airplane itself is the best flight
instructor a pilot will ever have.

--
Dudley Henriques