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Old September 28th 07, 04:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Default Lack Of Weather Info Doomed Scott Crossfield

FredGarvinMaleProstitute wrote in
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Jim Logajan wrote:
FredGarvinMaleProstitute wrote:
Did you know all the weather frequencies in Georgia(EFAS)
were broke that day along Scott's flight path??


Did you know that your rhetorical question doesn't make a lot of
sense? You can't "break" frequencies in the usual senses of that
word. Typical troll - can't form a meaningful sentence.

Big FAA secret

Check it out


Check out a secret? Silly sod. Either it's a secret and we can't
check it out or you're supposed to provide references to confirm your
claim.

It's hard to get info when the frequency is BROKE


First try to learn to distinguish between equipment breakage, power
loss, radio frequency interference, and a host of other maladies.
Then make your claim in those specific terms.

Now here is what the NTSB report claims regarding the nearest weather
reporting station - feel free to explain in what way the DNN ASOS
reporting was "broke" [sic]:

"The closest weather reporting facility to the accident site was at
the Dalton Regional Airport (DNN), Dalton, Georgia, located about 16
miles northwest of the accident site. The airport was equipped with
an automated surface observing system (ASOS). About 1118, the DNN
ASOS reported: Wind 340 degrees true at 5 knots, gusting to 13 knots;
visibility 3 sm in thunderstorm and heavy rain; scattered clouds at
800 feet above ground level (agl), broken ceiling at 4,800 feet agl,
overcast ceiling at 8,000 feet agl; temperature 16 degrees Celsius;
dew point 15 degrees Celsius; altimeter setting 29.94 inches of
mercury. Remarks: Hourly precipitation 0.14 inches and lightning
distant in all quadrants."


Bad choice of words. You can break frequency "outlets". If
the EFAS or RCO com outlet is out of service, then you can't
communicate with the AFSS. The EFAS and RCO outlets around
Georgia stay broke more than they stay in service. That was
the point of the statement. EFAS outlets and other FAA
equipment was OTS(Out of Service)during the time frame Scott
was passing through the airspace. If Scott tried to call the
AFSS on one of those RCO outlets and it was out of service,
then Scott could not receive a timely weather briefing or
real time weather information.

Air Traffic control is a series of links. You are only as
strong as your weakest link. When parts of the chain are
broke or weak accidents happen. Also the ASOS is only good
for one location. Weather can be drastically different just
a few miles from a ASOS/AWOS location. AFSS controllers
monitor multiple locations including PIREPS and weather
radar to assemble a mosaic of the real time flight weather.
However, if the communication outlets are OTS, how can the
pilot communicate and receive timely weather information?

Scott was in contact with the Atlanta center. Center
controllers separate aircraft and normally do not focus on
weather briefings. That is the job of the AFSS locations.
The AFSS locations communicate with pilots through RCO and
EFAS outlets located at several hundred outlets within the
US airspace system. If the outlet or outlets are
inoperative, then no weather briefings can be received when
the pilot needs them.



Oops,wrong! You may be even more clueless than Anthony!




Bertie