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Old October 28th 07, 04:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Nyal Williams
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Default using less spoiler just before the flare???

There is one TG-3 left flying, N60434, S/N 88. It
belongs to a fellow in Tennessee, I believe, Ron Naylor.
This glider never saw military duty and was bought
still in the crate by some folks at Harris Hill, who
sold it to the Tar Heel Soaring Club in Burlington,
NC back around 1960. It is the glider I learned on
after soloing SG-38s with the Belgians, and the glider
I did my Silver badge in, and did some instruction
in -- back when there was no CFI-G and commercial glider
pilots could instruct. (I got grandfathered and people
still ask why.)

At 01:12 28 October 2007, Bill Daniels wrote:



'Martin Gregorie' wrote in message
...
Nyal Williams wrote:
You are quite right on all counts, particularly if
you include the 2-22 and the TG-3.

I've just reviewed the descriptions of the 2-22 and
TG-3 in Martin Simon's
books in case I'd missed anything. Annoyingly, the
text doesn't mention
the brake/spoiler arrangement and the photos don't
show it either. The
drawing of the 2-22 shows a broad top surface-only
device: did he get it
wrong or does the brake have a really wide sealing
strip? The TG-3 is
drawn with a much narrower chord device above and
below the wing and looks
much more like an S-H brake.

Thanks for the confirmation about the other Schweitzer
gliders.
That was rather a blind guess on my part.

You'll probably have to get used to it. Language
changes;
we must all choose our particular upsets over this
fact.

Sure. I wasn't meaning to get at anybody though it
may have looked like
it. I've tripped up in the past over different meanings
of a word and I'll
probably trip again. This is only terminology and
we all know what the
other means. Other words have *radically* different
meanings on either
side of the pond, something I'm not about to illustrate!


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Actually, the TG-3 and the 2-22 had top only spoilers
hinged at the front
and closed with a spring. You had to overcome aerodynamic
and spring force
to hold them open. I have several hundred hours in
a TG-3. You can see
there were no lower surface spoilers on this picture.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Im...TG-3A_USAF.jpg

Although the 2-22 was a dog, the TG-3 was a reasonably
good soaring machine
at about 26:1. The best feature of the TG-3, for the
instructor, was the
sliding rear canopy. The worst was the extremely heavy
ailerons - most
pilots flew it with both hands on the stick.

There were serious proposals that the 2-22 replacement
should have been an
updated TG-3 with lighter metal wings and tail surfaces
instead of the
original wood. It would have needed lighter ailerons
too. If such a
machine had been produced, it would have been much
better than the 2-33.
Note that the TG-3 predates the 2-33 by more than 20
years.

AFIK, the only US made 2-seat glider of this era to
have S-H type dive
brakes was the Pratt-Read.
http://www.sailplanedirectory.com/Pl...fm?PlaneID=264

Bill Daniels