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"Kirk Stant" wrote in message
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Just for fun, off the top of your heads, which post-WW2 combat
aircraft (any country) have NOT been used in their intended roles in
an actual shooting war (or police action, or soccer riot, or whatever
it's called these days)?

And why?

Some ROE:

1. Combat aircraft means it was designed or modified to employ
air-to-air or air-to-ground/ship/boat weapons.

2. Combat means someone was activily shooting back (or really wanted
to) while the aircraft was performing it's mission.

3. Let's leave out recce, that just gets too complicated!

Any Swedish aircraft after the Tunnan I think.. i.e. Draken, Viggen,

A SH-37 Viggen was once most likely fired at by a Soviet frigate during a photo
reconnaissance mission over the Baltic. It is not known however if it was a
deliberate shooting or if it was an accidental shooting, but photos from the
mission anyway showed two SA-N-4 Gecko (Soviet/Russian designation 9M33) missiles
being launched from the ship. Urban are you here? Can you help me with the year
for this incident? Was it late 70's?

In another Cold War incident over the Baltic a Soviet Su-15 Flagon crashed into
the sea when two examples were harassing a Swedish SH 37 Viggen over international
waters. The other Soviet pilot apparently though that his comrade was shot down by
the Swedish aircraft (the SH-37 actually did carry two Sidewinders for self
defense) because he chased the SH-37 Viggen for a long time (almost back to
Swedish waters) at very low altitude over the sea. The SH-37 Viggen pilot had a
tough ride because he was all the time hearing the alarm signals in his hearphones
when the Soviet pilot tried to lock his missiles on him, and he had repeatedly to
perform evasive manoeuvres.

The first incident above is official, but I'm not sure about the other. I heard
about it once from a man whose brother was a Viggen pilot (hope this is barred
under the statute of limitations now .

Assuming the above incidents have happened - would it be enough to remove the
Viggen from the above list?


Regards,

Per Nordenberg