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Old December 11th 07, 02:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
F. Baum
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On Dec 10, 11:59 pm, Jackal24 wrote:

I disagree. The safety pilot thing has already been mentioned. Instruction
of someone rated in the aircraft (maybe for a higher rating, maybe not) is
another. You are a CFII according to your post. When you were giving
instrument instruction, did you log it as PIC? Did your student?
That's a pretty common situation. If you meant really, really, really,
really generally, then ok.

The CFII was the other guy. I think we are blurring an important
distiction here because Robert posted that the Safety Pilot can log
the time that he is acting as PIC. This is correct, but he cannot log
PIC for the time he is not functioning as PIC. The FAA has made this
determination , not me . If any of these cheap Multi outfits tell
you otherwise, they are not truthfull. This is how the interpritaion
from the LGB FSDO came about (In writing). I will readily admit that
the FAA has a hard time consistintly interpriting thier own regs, so
you may find a FSDO that may say otherwise
I would occasionally serve on the interview board at my old airline.
As part of the screening process we would have a panel of three pilots
who would screen apllicants (In addition to a sim ride and a written
test). Part of the panel discusion involved a reveiw of an applicants
logbooks. All of the panelists got pretty good at spotting the suspect
flight time from these cheap multi outfits , and others like the
weekend type rating places (You would even recocnize N numbers after
awhile). Of course this would always come up during the interview. The
honest canidates (the ones who would recieve further consideration)
would tell us what they logged, The dishonest applicants (The ones who
got sent home) would maintain that you could have 2 or more people
logging PIC for the same flight. We screened knucleheads who would log
PIC in the 737 they rode in to get to the interview because they were
typed. So put whatever you want to in your logbook, but dont think
that you are fooling anyone.
FB