On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:42:45 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:

Dave wrote in
:

I know 3 guys who are doing this now, and saving a pile... (by their
own numbers)

It is a Cherokee 140..

Yes, the wing IS in the right place..

Yes, it WILL haul 4 people (in a pinch, WITH a pinch!)

And it is a good trainer,


Nope, worst trainer ever.


Many say the Cherokee family is just too docile to be a trainer.
You can put the 180 into a full stall and still use the ailerons to
make turns while in the stall. In some planes if you touch the
ailerons in a stall it'll roll over and/or go into a spin. In the 180
it just sets there with the stabilator vibrating a bit and a high rate
of descent. Do that in my Deb and it takes concentration and some
timely control inputs to keep the greasy side down.

Roger (K8RI)