Thanks for all the great replys...

I'll try to consolidate my comments into one post:

--We knew this was "coming", but no concrete plans had been made. I
got a 'heads up' a few weeks ago from one of the CLE folks.

--There is a proposal out, and an "Ad Hoc" committee mtg 11 Jan. This
is the first of at least 2 or 3 meetings before it happens. Looks like
it will be at least next Winter 'til we see it, maybe quite a bit
longer....so we have time to comment.

--The proposed expansion is 2 50/80 "wings" (segments) one SW, one NE,
along 24/06 centerline, from the existing 40/80 20nm ring out to 30
nm. Space needed for vectoring aircraft onto final; current ATC
regs require that aircraft not exit and re-enter Class Bravo.

--I have the propsal as an attachment...if you'd like a copy, email me
at ...maybe someone would like to post it?

--I work at CLE (I maintain the radars), so 'getting to know them' is
already done. I'm familar with the flow to 24 and 06...and our ATC
folks are aware of our operation, though not as familiar as i'd like.
I tried to get a few of them out for a free ride this year, but it
didn't happen. May try to get some of our glider folks up to the
Tracon to see that side of it.

--We are directly in line with the final for rwy 06, and on the
inbound path for 24. Carving out a wedge over us would basically
eliminate the proposed expansion...so THAT ain't gonna happen

--SSA has already been contacted and we are planning to involve AOPA
too.

Thanks, Don

Don Byrer KJ5KB
Radar Tech & Smilin' Commercial Pilot Guy
Glider & CFI wannabe
kj5kb-at-hotmail.com

"I have slipped the surly bonds of earth; now if I can just land without bending the gear..."
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