Thomas Borchert wrote in
:

Matt,

There is recent science from studies of both the Grand Canyon and Mt.
St. Helens


Care to point us to a source?

Whatever it is, it won't shake evolution and the age of the earth. There
is simply NO debate about that in the scientific community. I'll admit
there is a debate about it well outside the scientific community, but
pretty much exclusively in the US.


Well, there is plenty of debate,but only as to the mechanism at the moment.
They happily entertianed some of the ID stuff when it came around but it
did not stand up to scrutiny and so far that evidence has been dismissed.
Most rational scientists are glad to look at anything that comes along and
they do, but most of it is easily dismissed and this ****es off the pseudo
scientists that hang their hats on it.

the bacterial flagellum thing is a classic example of this.

Bertie