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Old January 8th 08, 11:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Peter Thomas
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Default Flapped Glider Recommendations...

if you can find one a Hornet, basicaly a mosquito fuselage
and libelle wings, full auto connect controls, solid
38/1, slightly dissapointing 2 part canopy, but if
you were realy lucky a C with carbon spars and lighter
wings and the Mosquito canopy. mine goes fine in your
English conditions

LS1f also 38/1

Speed Astir, decent gel, scratch well, not auto connect


DG100/101, very good in weak conditions, good gel

all 38.1

of the older flapped gliders the LS3/a is probably
the best in weak conditions

later Pegasus (90) have auto connects

possibly A ventus B or C 15m with the right winglets

Pete

At 22:07 08 January 2008, Martin Gregorie wrote:
noel.wade wrote:
On Jan 8, 8:50 am, '
wrote:
Not a bird of the same flock, but how about a Pilatus
B4 ? Goes for
around 16K +/- Metal ship, lots of fun, and you can
leave it tied
out.
Doug


Doug -

Thanks, but my Russia is no trouble at all to rig;
so a metal glider I
can tie out isn't a compelling argument to me.

Others may not agree, but IME the Pilatus isn't all
that easy to rig.
I've assisted to rig the local one a few times. Its
not difficult but it
is finicky. The fit between the wing pickup points
and the drag links is
only a few thou, so it takes jiggling to get the
wings in place and
while this is going on the people on the tips MUST
NOT lower them or the
non-removable lower surface root fairings get bent
and the pilot will
not be a happy bunny. Like an ASH-25 or a G103, its
a glider I'm happy
to avoid rigging.

Add that to your list: as well as a good trailer (tows
well, is dry, is
easy to rig and de-rig from) the glider should not
be one that people
avoid having to rig.

In a similar vein, I reckon that ASW-19, 20, Pegase
and LS gliders rig
easily while a Discus is harder. IOW, generally I prefer
dual wing pin
systems because the first wing can't get punted out
by the second.
Notable exceptions are Libelles and Kestrels: these
are all single pin
systems but the spar stubs are fully exposed so you
can see exactly
what's going on rather than groveling inside the fuselage/peering

through holes while trying to get the alignment right.
The unusual
Mosquito / mini-Nimbus system with its single load
bearing pin at one
side of the fuselage is pretty easy to rig too.


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