Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Cubdriver usenet AT danford DOT net wrote in
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:40:35 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Why is it that a PPL is obtainable without basic spin recovery
demonstration? What about inverted recoveries?
Spins are not allowed in the planes available for rent at the
airport from which I fly, probably because they are in two cases
more than sixty years old.



J-3s are actually kinda difficult to get to spin anyway. They'll do
it, but with two up they need a bit of coaxing. not great for
incipient spin training.
Best airplane for it ever was one of my old luscombes. I took the
washout out of the wing to make it go faster, which works, BTW. and
as a result, the airplane was , um, interesting to stall. It was
absolutely impossible to stall without a big wing drop. Doing a
falling leaf was like clog dancing. if you let it go at al it was on
it's back in no time. It was also a very early one with the more
difficult ground handling whic, in addition to the "Fun with Stalls"
habit earned it the name "the humiliater" It was considered an
excellent primer for homebuilts. Great airplnae and it's still
flying, though i think with a bit of washout now.


Bertie
The Silvaire was a joy to spin. Snappy little bird!

The best spin entry for the J3 is to start a 1g stall carrying just a
tad of power. then just before the stall break, acellerate it up and
in with back stick and a shot of power for the rudder. Then imm
ediately off the power, hard pro spin rudder and full back stick.
Fun for all involved :-))


Yeah, pretty much exactly as I did it. Not so good for teaching
incipient spins when it looks so difficult to get into one!
I can't remember how easy they were to provoke with say, a stepp turn,
but I can't imagine they'd be all that much more likely to depart form
one of those either. It was a lot better solo form the rear seat,
though.


Bertie