Cub Driver wrote in message . ..
Yep, about 10% of France is now Muslim, they are France's Hispanics (I
know its hard to beleive but with a worse attitude). The French are
silenced by the prevailing multicrapism ideology and frightened of
dealing in the world as a proud and independant nation. The Ghost of
Americas future perhaps?

Well, the Hispanics are mostly Roman Catholic

Still, your point is worth taking. While American Muslims are far from
being the homogeneous group you'll find in France (I presume they're
most Algerian-French, or at least with ties to North Africa),

North African: either Arab or Black.

Islam
has indeed made remarkable gains in the U.S. In part this is because
of the Black Muslim movement of the 1960s. Many if not a majority of
U.S. Muslims are African-American, and of those, many if not a
majority were baptized as children. It will be interesting to see how
this plays out.

Black American Islam is odd (judged by middle eastern norms) and in
some of its forms would be considered herectical in the middle east,
not that the Black American muslims are concerned with that
disapproval. They are afterall americans by ethnicity.

The situation is not as France in which there are possibly 14 million
muslims of Nth African/Arab decent (someting equivalen to raical
privacy laws prevents proper data). Most of the S11 attackers were
based in France at one point.



The U.S. of course has had considerable experience with diverse
populations--that's how the country was fashioned.




And we don't have a
situation where 90 percent of the population is of European origin and
10 percent North African / Muslim. California is already a state
without a majority ethnic group. The U.S. as a whole will get there
eventually.

Unless Astlan, the mexian superstate some chicano supremacist promote
splits the nation. Hispanics are tollerated a high degree of ethnic
indentity that American Whites are not. You migh think its remote but
its a demograpahic possibility.

Indeed, if the "melting pot" hadn't worked so well in
earlier generations, we would have been there almost from the
beginning. Both my parents were born in Ireland. I have no relatives
in the U.S. except my immediate family. I hold Irish and American
passports and citizenship. My only child is married to an Englishman;
my granddaughters hold British and American passports. Yet I feel
perfectly at home here.

There are of parts of the country where you can not function without
speaking spannish and will need to travel an hour before you can rely
on finding english.


http://www.townhall.com/columnists/G...20031014.shtml
Looking for America in Chicago
Herbert London

Eurpeans consist of approximetly 50 ethnicticy, relatively diverse
they are united by much in common. Indo-Germanics may as well be
called Celto-Germanics as they hold much in common linguistically and
in the structure of their pre-christian religions.

America was built on the same ethnies that were indigenous to Europe
though it started as a predominatly Nth Eruopean one. There was an
suddently influx of Italians during the revolution there and Irish
during the famine. Just more europeans though in some cases a
tempororay problem. The Irish for instance were often poor because
they could not speak English and were illiterate in both languages.
(nothing like strets of NY) It was a social problem that would go
away and had little to do with prejudice.

Some of the problems the US has now are not going away: such as racial
set asides for even new immigrant Hispanics. There is obviously a
limited capacity to pay for this.

Between 1925 to 1965 the immigraion restriction act limited immigraion
to (300,000?) and in proportiin to the ethnic ratios present then in
the US population.

Ending it didn't help Black men. They were then 85% to 90% employed
and cheaper Hispanic labour has replaced them so now their emplyment
levels are 50%. Americas jails are the fuller for it probably. So
much for the civil rights act.

"Diverse" America may work but consider that it may not stack up well
against the more homogenous chinese who are unburdened by economicaly
and educationaly sub-averge groups. It may work but your children and
grandchildren may not be all that well of within it. Its not all beer
and skittles as your son in law migh say.



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