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Old February 9th 08, 05:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
bobcaldwell
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Default Inter-thermal cruise speeds?

On Feb 7, 5:00 pm, Mike the Strike wrote:
Frank:

One thing that classic MacCready theory doesn't take into account is
the depth of the working height band.

It would be a foolish pilot who set his computer/ring to MacCready 5
on a day with 5 knot thermals that topped out at 1,500 feet AGL, but
with cloudbases at 15,000 feet you could probably set it at 6 or
higher. Several pilots I know set their ring almost as a function of
height rather than thermal strength.

The chance of you hooking up with a good thermal increases with the
top of the lift and you can increase your speed accordingly. When you
get low, you need to slow down. There have been some good articles on
this if you search the databases.

Mike

On Feb 7, 11:50 am, Frank wrote:

I'm curious what others are using for inter-thermal cruise speeds for
modern 15m (and 18m I guess) gliders like the Ventus 2bx, Ventus 2cx,
ASW-27, ASG-29, Diana 2, etc (add models as necessary).


Here in the U.S. we have been moving toward cruise speeds much lower
than would normally be dictated by using straight McReady settings,
but how low is too low?


I've also been flying a V2bx & V2cxt in Condor a lot, and cruise
speeds there are all over the map, from 90kt to 125kt (fully
ballasted) in the same race/weather conditions, with varying results.


Any thoughts?


TIA,


Frank (TA)



I have also found John Cochrane's (BB) work in this area to be most
enlightening. Here is the link to the paper.

http://faculty.chicagogsb.edu/john.c...s/newmcred.pdf

It gets pretty technical but the gist is that he blends MC theory with
probability (of reaching the next thermal of a certain strength)
theory and proves it mathematically. A little calculus for those cold
winter months.....

Bob