Dudley Henriques wrote:

Centurion wrote:
Ol Shy & Bashful wrote:

Why is it so many pilots are afraid of stalls? I see it over an over
when doing flight reviews and checks. Why are pilots so afraid of
flying in the low end of the speed envelope? Isn't that where the
nasty things can happen? Isn't that where a pilot should be
comfortable and competent?
What do you think?

I think that to consider stalls within the confines of the low-speed end
of
the envelope is naive at best and dangerous at worst. With 24,000+ hours
you obviously know that, but after skimming through the many (many)
replies to this thread I see scant little, if any, acknowledgement that
the stall occurs at a given angle of attack (AoA), not a SPEED!

You can safely (as in not over-stress the airframe) use full control
deflection from the bottom of the green arc (usually Vs) to Vmo. At Vmo,
full elevator deflection will result in the airframe's maximum certified
G
load, right before the stall. IOW, max-G and stall occur simultaneously.
Below Vmo, the wing will stall before max-G. At 1G, the wing stalls at
Vs.

Here's something to really fry your noodle: at zero-G, the wing wont
stall (think about it).

My point is, stalls are an aerodynamic phenomena that is tied to the AoA,
not the ASI. I have a CFI, ATPL, aerobatics endorsements, etc, and
several thousand hours too...but all this is basic aeronautical knowledge
that is taught at ab-initio stage. Stalls shouldn't be feared, just
understood, then practised until they are as familiar as any other phase
of flight - right across the speed envelope.

BTW, you haven't lived until you've done accelerated stalls that
transition into accelerated spins! Hoo-har!!

James

Correct me if I'm mistaken as it's been a long long time since I've been
in a Cessna 182, ( and I'm just using a 182 as an example here out of
the inventory of everything that flies since the Vmo for the Skylane
pops into my rather feeble brain :-)) but if I remember right, the Vmo
on the Skylane was 160 KIAS. The Va or maneuvering speed on the Skylane
at GW was 111.

Ooops. You're 100% correct - I mean't Va NOT Vmo! Serves me right for not
proof-reading my post :P

It's just a suggestion mind you, but I wouldn't be in all that much in a
hurry to apply full back elevator on the airplane at 160knots or Vmo
unless I wanted to crack the world record for a Cessna 182 making it
sans a few misc parts from where ever it was in the sky when I did this
to impact on the ground :-))

Indeed. That's a quite possible outcome. IIRC ultimate load for normal
category aircraft is 150% rated G (as in 1.5 times). The following thread
will be of interest to those interested in the high-speed end of the flight
envelope and how that is determined based on component failure
probabilities:
http://tinyurl.com/yrqz4f (links to http://www.eng-tips.com/)

Thanks for highlighting my misinformation

James
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Are you making all this up as you go along?