"Robert M. Gary" wrote in
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On Feb 24, 5:10*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in
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On Feb 24, 4:40*pm, buttman wrote:
On Feb 24, 3:05*pm, es330td wrote:

Its a holdover from the olden days when flaps weren't standard
equipment, as they are now. In the next few months/years the FAA
is supposed to redo part 61, and many believe they will change the
complex requirement to something more modern.

Old days as in the 1990's.

Well, the rules governing this sort of stuff were put in during the
major revamp in the 70s, and even then there were very few production
aircraft with no flaps.The Citabria ( and some of those had them)
Pitts and Great Lakes are the only three that come to mind..

I seem to remember the HP and complex endorsements coming of age in
the 90's. Before that I thought there was some sort of a hydrid
endorsement.


No, definitely in the early to mid seventies. They may have been
modified and tweaked in the nineties, but they were definitely around in
the seventies. I had to sign quite a few guys off in the Stearman for
horsepower only, for instance. There was a major rejigging of the regs
around 73 or so. Before that, for instance, if you had a flight
instructor raing you could teach in anything you had a rating for.
Previous to that if you got a multi engine rating you could teach in
twins with no special CFIME add on to your instructor ticket. THe flight
instructor ticket was also limited to two years at this point.
A lot of further requirements for all ratings were added about this time
as well. Night training for the private, for instance. I never had one
minute of night instruction and i went off and did night flying the day
after I got my private. Next night i did a night cross country.. All
legal then. The BFR was also introduced at the same time if I'm not
mistaken.
I have no idea how to date these changes exactly, but I'm thinking
'73-'74.
Three inch numbers came in the same year,IIRC. This is the one we found
most exciting.

Bertie