On Mar 11, 12:22 pm, "Dan Luke" wrote:

There is not a single "fact" established regarding origins. Science
cannot, will not, and has not done more than speculate.

Utter nonsense. The only thing we haven't got a handle on is how the first
proto-life appeared on the planet (Creationists are the ones who claim to
know). Everything since is pretty well figured out. It's a fact that all
the species that exist today evolved, not poofed.

Facts are observable and substantiated by evidence. You have neither
for your off the reservation claim. All you're doing is revealing your
presuppositions, not "stating fact."



Do go on about first causes. I'd be ecstatic to learn what the "facts"
are.
Oh -- and have we lost our reference for the "isotopic smoking gun"?

Nope. There are plenty, but here's one:

http://www.radix.net/~bobg/faqs/scq.CO2rise.html

CO2 produced from burning fossil fuels or burning forests has quite a
different isotopic composition from CO2 in the atmosphere. This is because
plants have a preference for the lighter isotopes (12C vs. 13C); thus they
have lower 13C/12C ratios. Since fossil fuels are ultimately derived from
ancient plants, plants and fossil fuels all have roughly the same 13C/12C
ratio - about 2% lower than that of the atmosphere. As CO2 from these
materials is released into, and mixes with, the atmosphere, the average
13C/12C ratio of the atmosphere decreases.

It is a simple matter to compare the isotopic ratio in the current
atmosphere to that in samples from ice cores.

Guess what that comparison reveals?

And these isotopes are recognizable in comparison to -- oh -- volcanic
activity? Or those altered by radiation exposure?

Hardly compelling.