On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:19:50 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:

Roger wrote in
:

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:25:38 -0700 (PDT), Dan
wrote:

On Mar 10, 9:21 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:


OTOH, if he sells the Debonair someone else will pollute
with it.

Unless he really believes in his cause, in which case he would scrap

Thaks sorta like the difference between the religoius believer and the
fundamentalistic fanitic.

The believer learns to conserve and in harmony with nature and the
resto f the world. The fanatic says, if it doesn't conform, destroy it
or them.

I disagree with almost all of the above. I don't think believers and
fanatics are all that much different when it comes to the crunch. This
isn't just anotion, BTW, I have some experience with this. The fanatic
cannot exist without succour from the mainstream, for one thing. The
beliver may distance themselves from the fanatic, but there's usually
sympathy to one degree or another that enables the fanatic comfort in
his position.

I never thought of it in that light, but it makes sense.
The extremist, radical, or fanatic is just an extreme view or position
of the mainstream. They are usually a small percent and couldn't
exist without either the support, sympathy, or being condoned (even by
being ignored) by the mainstream.

This overlay applies to just about every human leaning I
can think of. But science should be and usually is, out of this realm.
Scientists don't "believe" they look at the evidence and make a best
guess. That's all they do and all they ever have done. They may disagree
with one another but fanaticism just isn't part of their rainbow..

Dogma does tend to permeate the scientific community to a surprising
degree. IOW the "not invented here (not my idea), or we've done it
this way for years can be difficult to overcome. That's why most pick
non controversial subjects for their Masters and PHD thesis. The
scientific community can be quite resistant to change "at times" and
unfortunately if they want the grant money to keep coming in have to
be careful.

Being they, as a whole a reluctant to accept new ideas contrary to
mainstream thinking it makes the wide acceptance of global warming
even more of a high profile, something we shouldn't ignore subject.


Bertie
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com