On Mar 12, 7:14 pm, terry wrote:
On Mar 13, 9:14 am, "Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk At Wow Way

D0t C0m wrote:
"skym" wrote in message

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While making a turn to base and final recently, I was aware that I was
going to be wide with my normal turn from downwind through base to
final, so I banked more to keep as close to the runway centerline as
possible. I kept thinking about the infamous and usually fatal stall/
spin by some pilots in this situation, I kept thinking that if I keep
the ball centered, even with a very steep bank, that I would be ok and
not auger in. Some of you instructors and old pros...is this correct?
(Not that I intend to make it a practice.)

Instead of asking about keeping the ball centered, perhaps you should be
asking why you elected to flirt with a pilot error fatality by cranking and
yanking for the sake of a few style points... So what if you overshoot the
turn????

Note: as others are beating to death - stall speed doesn't change with bank.
Stall speed changes with increasing G (increasing lift). Increasing G comes
from pulling on the yoke/stick. Period. No pull, no G, no increase in stall.
More pull, more G, higher stall. Wings level, wings banked, wings upside
down - makes no difference.

so if i am doing a steep descending turn , I wont be pulling back on
the stick as much as a steep level turn,
hence less g ? This would seem to contradict others comments that
you pull the same no of g in a bank whether it is level
or descending. I am still confused.
Terry

In a coordinated descending turn, the inside wing is at a
higher AOA than the outside wing and will stall first. In a skidding
descending turn, the difference is even greater and is asking for big
trouble. In a slipping turn, the inside wing's AOA decreases and is
much closer to the AOA of the outside wing. Danger of wing-drop
stalling is lessened.
In a climbing turn, the outside wing is at a higher AOA and
will stall first.

I built a device that demonstrates this visually so that our
students could get a handle on it. I keep promising to post pictures
of it somewhere. Can someone suggest to this Internet Ignoramus where
a good spot would be for that?

Dan