Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in news:7JGdnS1ILaP_
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Bob F. wrote:
Where did you come to the conclusion it was correct in both cases? I
just said I am not surprised the term got "high jacked. and it wouldn't
be the first time" Meaning, incorrectly. I've just never heard it
being used associated with the back of the power curve in 50 years of
aviation that's all. Could have missed it. Love to see some real
documentation.

You might or might not not find documentation. The first time I heard it
was in connection with the F100 crash at Edwards. I've heard it since
used by several sources when discussing landing accidents involving low
and slow approach profiles.

Well, like "dragging it in" it's not exactly a tech term. But it's origins
are in the shape of the envelope and relate to mach buffet problems
associated with high alt flight. It's poorly understood, even by most
airline pilots, and frequently misused, usually as a modrn equivelent of
"there be dragons there" for all sorts of things that happen around the
edges of all sorts of flight envelopes. I've heard a chopper guy use it to
describe the lead lag roll they get when they go too fast, for instance.


Bertie
Perhaps I misread the poster's question. he stated as follows;

The Sargon wrote and I answered;
"I am curious as to the meaning of the phrase "..dragging it in". As
in "...he turned on final, dragging it in".

Perhaps I'm nuts, but I took this wording to be referring to an
approach, not the high altitude scenario :-))

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Dudley Henriques