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Old March 16th 08, 05:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
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Default XC Logging for ATP (was: Ammending logbooks)

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On Mar 13, 11:25*am, "Bob F." wrote:
Cross country distance definitions are different for different
ratings.


True.

There is no general definition in time, direction, endurance or
whatever f

or
cross country otherwise.


There's a general definition given by 61.13bi: "Cross-country time
means--Except as provided [below for specific ratings], time acquired
during flight: conducted by a person who holds a pilot certificate;
conducted in an aircraft; that includes a landing at a point other
than the point of departure; and that involves the use of dead
reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation aids, radio aids, or other
navigation systems to navigate to the landing point."

*The ATP has NO definition for it. *


Sure it has. It's given by 61.13b3vi: "Cross-country time means--For
the purpose of meeting the aeronautical experience requirements for an
airline transport pilot certificate (except with a rotorcraft category
rating), time acquired during a flight: conducted in an appropriate
aircraft; that is at least a straight-line distance of more than 50
nautical miles from the original point of departure; and that involves
the use of dead reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation aids, radio
aids, or other navigation systems."


I think that may be a relatively recent rule which may account for the
confusion. I seem to recall that most licences and ratings called for a
specific distance to be flown excepting the ATP. Maybe it was just the
135 requirement though. Can't remember and am beyond caring at this
juncture, though.


Bertie