On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:06:59 GMT, "JGalban via AviationKB.com"
u32749@uwe wrote:

Tina wrote:
Some SEL airplanes are not certified for spins. I assume the 172 isn't
in that group.

I'm pretty sure that all of the older 172s (before production restarted in
'97) are approved for intentional spins in the Utility Category. Not sure
about the later models.

The nice thing about the 172 is that it's pretty easy to get it into the
Utility Category. My Cherokee, on the other hand, requires some careful W&B
to fit into its relatively narrow U.C. envelope. I'd spin it a lot more if
it wasn't such a pain.

Our 180 was pretty easy to get into the Utility category. Then after
several years I found that placard on the panel "Spin Entry from full
stall only" was a mistake and it wasn't certified for spins.

Recovery from a fully developed spin was interesting. It'd make one
full turn after the application of opposite rudder as if you'd done
nothing. Then it'd stop in about a half turn.

I saw two videos, IIRC from Piper. The first was a Archer with 4 guys
in it. (no way was that in the utility category). Flat spin all the
way to the ocean. I'm not sure about the other but I think it was a
Cherokee 180. It too went into a flat spin with no recovery.


John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
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