On Mar 26, 1:49 am, Roger wrote:

The Glock safety is a trigger safety, period. The is no manual safety,
thus no safety to engage/disengage. So keep your damn finger off the
trigger and thereby avoid disengaging the safety.

Although considered a safety the problem is it's not a true safety in
the sense of preventing an accidental firing. (Unlike the 1911 which
blocks the firing pin) If you drop it and something hits the trigger
from the front it'll fire and don't go sticking it in your belt.:-))

By "true safety" I suppose you mean a separate switch that blocks the
action in some way (There is no safety designed, manufactured, or sold
that "prevents accidental firing" -- or at least that had better be
your attitude while handling firearms).

That's simply defining 'safety" too narrowly. Even the 1911 has a grip
safety.

The Glock trigger safety has been proven in various field tests and in
daily use by the FBI, NYPD, DEA, and about 60% of all Law Enforcement
agencies in the US.

If you think about it, there's no better place for a safety -- the
only time there should be 3-7 lbs of pressure pulling back directly on
that trigger is when you want to fire. An no -- it doesn't go off if
you drop it, it catches on your belt, etc, etc etc. If it does you're
the victim of your own carelessness.

Anyone who carries a firearm in their belt without a holster is asking
for trouble.

Self defense is the only option in MI. Protection of property is not.
At night you only need fear for your life. You are still going to have
to explain as does every officer. At least you no longer have to
prove you exhausted all avenues of escape.

You're confirming my statement that you should "determine the extent
of legal use of deadly force for your jurisdiction..." And that
includes townships. Just because the state law provides some
definition of "self defense" doesn't mean your township or city
doesn't have more restrictive or more loosely defined laws.

Once you've figured out what the rules are, rehearse your actions
mentally and from time to time physically ("Should I turn on a light?
Use a Flashlight? Stand at the top of the stairs?") so that when you
hear something at 3 AM you can act as you planned in your woozy,
startled state.

The worst thing you can do is follow Uncle Ned's advice to shoot the
guy as he runs away and drag him into the house.

In nearly all jurisdictions in the United States, an intruder in your
house at night warrants the use of deadly force. Also nearly universal
is that you can't shoot an old lady who cut you off on the turnpike
(Texas is exempt, I think).

Bottom line -- learn the law before you have to explain your actions
in court. If you own or carry a firearm for self defense, you'd better
be prepared to deal with the consequences.


Careful what you shoot at , it may shoot back.

Then be fast and accurate.

I'm not faster than a ricochet

Ridiculous.

There's not an item in my (and I'm sure your) house that will cause a
direct ricochet of the typical expanding self-defense round -- unless
you have a huge collection of Battleship steel cuttings hanging on
your walls.

And where was I doing that?
That is one of the problems with Usenet. We reply in first person and
it sounds like a lecture.

Please forgive my misinterpretation.


Dan Mc