Al, 
Thanks for the info - the most informative response to date.  In the 
meantime since my first post, and based on the reponses I got here, I've 
gone with the Softie seat pack.  Confirmed the order last week and it should 
arrive soon.  Looking forward to receiving it and seeing how it all fits. 
 
Cheers, 
Shawn 
"Al MacDonald"  wrote in message 
news:0YRKc.43754$2i3.11107@clgrps12... 
 Shawn, 
 
 My Pitts S1- C (with D fuselage) came with a National chairpack.  What I 
 didn't know at the time was the previous owner had set a piece of plywood 
 across the seat bottom frame to increase his eye height.  This is a good 
 combination, as the visibility is as good as it can be, and when I'm 
hanging 
 upside down I can just feel my dangling hair touch the canopy.  I took the 
 plywood out to try some circuits one day, and the 1.5" less height 
seriously 
 reduced the visibility (and the quality of my landings).  This chairpack 
 doesn't give me good lumbar support, which I can feel on a cross-country 
 flight, but it's fine for g's.  I can actually feel the diaper through my 
 rear end, but because the packed parachute is quite firm on the bottom 
 portion it doesn't tend to move or squish on higher g's.  Without the 
 plywood, I think a seatpack would be the best for this aircraft and me 
 (6'160#).  I don't think any type of backpack would be comfortable in this 
 aircraft, and even worse in a 'C' fuselage. 
 
 The parachutes are all tested and TSO'd in different categories.  Older 
 style systems were either low speed (under 150mph) or standard category. 
 Military surplus are all standard category.  Drop testing was done to a 
 standard that (theoretically) imparted a shock load on the system, which 
 decided in which category the system fit.  3000 and 5000 lbs seems to ring 
a 
 bell here.  Later TSO requirements of C23c allowed for 3 different 
 categories, cat B being the most common --  a drop testing of 300 lbs at 
 175kts, with placarding at 254lbs at 150 kts.  TSO C23D allowed for more 
 categories with different weight/speed restrictions, which was great for 
the 
 extra lighter or heavier user who may need different requirements. 
Current 
 day standards call for a "full-stow" diaper on a round parachute, which 
 stages the parachute deployment, thus increasing the reliability of the 
 opening.  Without a diaper the parachute is allowed to open before the 
lines 
 become taut -- imagine the shock when the lines finally tighten up on a 
 parachute partially open already!   In the days before the full stow 
diaper, 
 the lines were unstowed from the pack tray, which allowed for the 
potential 
 of arms and legs to get tangled up in the unstowing lines (especially for 
a 
 pilot making his first jump and not maintaining balance/stability on the 
 relative airflow).  The full stow diaper carries all of the line stows on 
 it, so the lines unstow from the top down, and once the parachute is out 
of 
 the container the the lines are well out of the reach of an unstable 
pilot. 
 
 The opening speeds here are very important, as the drag from the opening 
 parachute increases in square to the speed increase.  My Pitts has a VNE 
of 
 203mph/176kt, which could easily cause damage to a parachute rated at only 
 150 kts.  Higher speed parachute systems incorporate other staging devices 
 to inhibit the opening of the parachute for a very short period of time 
 while the parachute and user slow down; all to reduce the opening shock to 
 an acceptable level.  Altitude above sea level plays a part here as well, 
as 
 parachutes tend to open faster/harder in thinner air (don't ask me why) 
and 
 they land faster too.  Landing a parachute may be a consideration here as 
 well.  While the cockpit may only have enough room for a 24' parachute, 
the 
 200 pound user may find extensive lower leg and back injuries a real 
 possibility after a successful bailout, and our bones take longer to heal 
as 
 we get older.... 
 
 I manufacture, repair, repack and sell all kinds of parachute equipment 
for 
 my business.  Good luck on picking the 'right' system for you and your 
 Pitts. 
 
 Al MacDonald 
 Flying High Manufacturing Inc. 
 
 
 
 
 "ShawnD2112"  wrote in message 
 news:AnZDc.1369$Dq1.851@newsfe6-win... 
  Was hoping to get a bit of expertise here.  I'm in the market for an 
  emergency bailout chute for flying in my Pitts S-1D.  The top US 
 contenders 
  seem to be National and Softie but with no experience in the field, and 
  parachutes not exactly being the kind of object you can try on for size 
in 
  the shop, I don't really know what to look for and what to avoid.  I'd 
  appreciate any tips anyone out there could provide.  Are there any 
 European 
  models that anyone has any experience with?  Obviously comfort and space 
 in 
  the cockpit are major considerations. 
  
  Thanks! 
  Shawn 
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
			
 
			
			
			
				 
            
			
			
            
            
                
			
			
		 
		
	
	
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