Shawn, I forgot something very important! 
 
I'd strongly suggest you make a habit of putting on the parachute and then 
getting in the Pitts.  Get out of the Pitts with the parachute on, then 
remove it.  Do NOT get in the habit of getting out of the plane without your 
parachute on, as it could cultivate a very bad habit (and make you look 
rather stupid in the obituary).  I know it's a bit of a pain with my 
chairpack, and probably even more so with the seat pack, but well worth the 
extra effort. 
 
One other thing: repacks.  In Canada there are no laws/regulations requiring 
you to wear a parachute or when it has to be repacked.  Not so in the USA, 
where the repack cycle is currently 120 days and wearing an out of date 
parachute is breaking one of the FARs.  It may be a good idea to check into 
what your legal requirements are in the UK, if I understood correctly that 
is where you are from.  While I feel somewhat obligated to advise my 
customers on the rules in Canada vs. the US in this department vs. the 
manufacturers instructions, realistically most of the glider parachutes are 
lucky to show up here for an annual repack. 
 
That's all. 
 
al. 
 
 
 
"ShawnD2112"  wrote in message 
... 
 Al, 
 Thanks for the info - the most informative response to date.  In the 
 meantime since my first post, and based on the reponses I got here, I've 
 gone with the Softie seat pack.  Confirmed the order last week and it 
should 
 arrive soon.  Looking forward to receiving it and seeing how it all fits. 
 
 Cheers, 
 Shawn 
 "Al MacDonald"  wrote in message 
 news:0YRKc.43754$2i3.11107@clgrps12... 
  Shawn, 
  
  My Pitts S1- C (with D fuselage) came with a National chairpack.  What I 
  didn't know at the time was the previous owner had set a piece of 
plywood 
  across the seat bottom frame to increase his eye height.  This is a good 
  combination, as the visibility is as good as it can be, and when I'm 
 hanging 
  upside down I can just feel my dangling hair touch the canopy.  I took 
the 
  plywood out to try some circuits one day, and the 1.5" less height 
 seriously 
  reduced the visibility (and the quality of my landings).  This chairpack 
  doesn't give me good lumbar support, which I can feel on a cross-country 
  flight, but it's fine for g's.  I can actually feel the diaper through 
my 
  rear end, but because the packed parachute is quite firm on the bottom 
  portion it doesn't tend to move or squish on higher g's.  Without the 
  plywood, I think a seatpack would be the best for this aircraft and me 
  (6'160#).  I don't think any type of backpack would be comfortable in 
this 
  aircraft, and even worse in a 'C' fuselage. 
  
  The parachutes are all tested and TSO'd in different categories.  Older 
  style systems were either low speed (under 150mph) or standard category. 
  Military surplus are all standard category.  Drop testing was done to a 
  standard that (theoretically) imparted a shock load on the system, which 
  decided in which category the system fit.  3000 and 5000 lbs seems to 
ring 
 a 
  bell here.  Later TSO requirements of C23c allowed for 3 different 
  categories, cat B being the most common --  a drop testing of 300 lbs at 
  175kts, with placarding at 254lbs at 150 kts.  TSO C23D allowed for more 
  categories with different weight/speed restrictions, which was great for 
 the 
  extra lighter or heavier user who may need different requirements. 
 Current 
  day standards call for a "full-stow" diaper on a round parachute, which 
  stages the parachute deployment, thus increasing the reliability of the 
  opening.  Without a diaper the parachute is allowed to open before the 
 lines 
  become taut -- imagine the shock when the lines finally tighten up on a 
  parachute partially open already!   In the days before the full stow 
 diaper, 
  the lines were unstowed from the pack tray, which allowed for the 
 potential 
  of arms and legs to get tangled up in the unstowing lines (especially 
for 
 a 
  pilot making his first jump and not maintaining balance/stability on the 
  relative airflow).  The full stow diaper carries all of the line stows 
on 
  it, so the lines unstow from the top down, and once the parachute is out 
 of 
  the container the the lines are well out of the reach of an unstable 
 pilot. 
  
  The opening speeds here are very important, as the drag from the opening 
  parachute increases in square to the speed increase.  My Pitts has a VNE 
 of 
  203mph/176kt, which could easily cause damage to a parachute rated at 
only 
  150 kts.  Higher speed parachute systems incorporate other staging 
devices 
  to inhibit the opening of the parachute for a very short period of time 
  while the parachute and user slow down; all to reduce the opening shock 
to 
  an acceptable level.  Altitude above sea level plays a part here as 
well, 
 as 
  parachutes tend to open faster/harder in thinner air (don't ask me why) 
 and 
  they land faster too.  Landing a parachute may be a consideration here 
as 
  well.  While the cockpit may only have enough room for a 24' parachute, 
 the 
  200 pound user may find extensive lower leg and back injuries a real 
  possibility after a successful bailout, and our bones take longer to 
heal 
 as 
  we get older.... 
  
  I manufacture, repair, repack and sell all kinds of parachute equipment 
 for 
  my business.  Good luck on picking the 'right' system for you and your 
  Pitts. 
  
  Al MacDonald 
  Flying High Manufacturing Inc. 
  
  
  
  
  "ShawnD2112"  wrote in message 
  news:AnZDc.1369$Dq1.851@newsfe6-win... 
   Was hoping to get a bit of expertise here.  I'm in the market for an 
   emergency bailout chute for flying in my Pitts S-1D.  The top US 
  contenders 
   seem to be National and Softie but with no experience in the field, 
and 
   parachutes not exactly being the kind of object you can try on for 
size 
 in 
   the shop, I don't really know what to look for and what to avoid.  I'd 
   appreciate any tips anyone out there could provide.  Are there any 
  European 
   models that anyone has any experience with?  Obviously comfort and 
space 
  in 
   the cockpit are major considerations. 
   
   Thanks! 
   Shawn 
   
   
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
			
 
			
			
			
				 
            
			
			
            
            
                
			
			
		 
		
	
	
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