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Old May 26th 08, 01:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks,soc.culture.british
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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Jim Logajan wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Tina wrote in news:3187509d-daec-48d6-9db7-
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Bertie, you clearly have studied Sir Winston, in that you read
between his lines accurately.

But still, his insulting conventions are worth following because
they amuse the reader.



Yeah, he was a fun guy. Just ask the antipodeans he got slaughtered
at Gallipoli,


Actually, Kitchener was the one who had ordered the attack on
Gallipoli, and the one who was most responsible for arguing against an
evacuation once the attack bogged down. Yes, Churchill did fight
against an evacuation too, but by that time the decision was an army
one, not navy. For that matter, Kitchener was the one who sent the
navy on its own to attack the Dardanelles. And the local commanders,
Carden and then de Robeck, who showed remarkable lack of backbone. But
there were many hands involved in creation of such a disaster.


No doubt about it, Kitchener would have been hung out these days for his
various roles in history.

Who did what is covered in painstaking detail in David Fromkin's book
"A Peace to End All Peace - The fall of the Ottoman Empire and the
creation of the modern Middle East"

All that said, Churchill's WWI actions do appear to have been those of
an amoral pompous ass. But I think that made him one with the crowd in
power at the time - he didn't appear to be any different in these
characteristics than many of his peers.



Oh yeah. I agree. They were a pack of Imperialist hyenas. Not sure if
the word "peers" is one I'd use. not because it;s innacurate, but
because it tends to gloss over the savagery of those creeps.


Bertie



Bertie