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Old June 9th 08, 04:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
BT
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I figured that was what the answer would be.. and yes.. 19..
but all 19 need not be listed for which flight they occured on. "xxyz
taught to profiency on flight IAW FAR 61.87 yadayada yada
That's what a training folder is for.
Only the endorsement that states that ground (academic) and flight training
of the items in 61.87(c)(l) have been completed.
SSF had a great sample shown below, also 61.65E had copies of all
endorsements required, and there are not 19 training endorsements for the
glider student pilot.

STUDENT PILOT

Aeronautical Knowledge - FAR 61.87(b)

I certify that M _____________ has satisfactorily completed a pre-solo
written examination as required by FAR 61.87(b) demonstrating knowledge of
the portions of FAR Part 61 and Part 91 applicable to student pilots,
airspace rules and procedures, and the flight characteristics and
operational limitations for a (Glider Type), and that I have reviewed all
incorrect answers with him.



Pre-Solo Flight Training - FARs 61.31(j) and §61.87 (c)

(Aerotow)

I certify that M ___________ has received the instruction required by FAR
61.31(j) and FAR 61.87(c) and (i) in a (Glider Type) and that he has
satisfactorily accomplished ground and flight training in aerotow procedures
and operations and proficiency therein, has demonstrated proficiency in the
applicable maneuvers and procedures included in FAR 61.87(i), and has
demonstrated adequate knowledge of flight rules listed in FAR Part 91 and is
competent to make safe solo flights in that glider; provided that each such
flight is carried out when the surface wind (steady or gusting) does not
exceed ___ kts and the crosswind component does not exceed ___ kts. This
approval is valid for the ___ days immediately following this endorsement
and provided such flights are conducted entirely within gliding range of the
takeoff point.

Note: Ground and Self-Launch endorsement samples are found in the
"Additional Endorsements" section of this publication.



BT

"Nyal Williams" wrote in message
...
Someone beat me to it, and there are 19 of them -- i goofed.

To reiterate: print it out, keep it with your logbook, and urge your
instructor to focus on missing items, and to USE THE LANGUAGE OF THE CFRs
in your logbook.

At 23:48 08 June 2008, BT wrote:

"Nyal Williams" wrote in message
...
snip

That said, there are 17 things that have to be entered by an

instructor
into your log book before it is legal to solo. The efficiency is to

carry
that list, post a flight number by the item covered, and wave the list

in
front of your instructor to be sure all items are planned for ahead of
time.

snip


Nyal.. would you care to list all 17 items?

BT