My recommendation to have these items in the log book is because an
extremely well-known examiner looks for these specific items when he
examines a student for a certificate.

One might be well-trained and slide by without these specific entries, but
they will smooth the process and they will also protect the instructor
against future difficulties.

At 03:57 09 June 2008, BT wrote:
I figured that was what the answer would be.. and yes.. 19..
but all 19 need not be listed for which flight they occured on. "xxyz
taught to profiency on flight IAW FAR 61.87 yadayada yada
That's what a training folder is for.
Only the endorsement that states that ground (academic) and flight
training
of the items in 61.87(c)(l) have been completed.
SSF had a great sample shown below, also 61.65E had copies of all
endorsements required, and there are not 19 training endorsements for the

glider student pilot.

STUDENT PILOT

Aeronautical Knowledge - FAR 61.87(b)

I certify that M _____________ has satisfactorily completed a pre-solo
written examination as required by FAR 61.87(b) demonstrating knowledge
of

the portions of FAR Part 61 and Part 91 applicable to student pilots,
airspace rules and procedures, and the flight characteristics and
operational limitations for a (Glider Type), and that I have reviewed all

incorrect answers with him.



Pre-Solo Flight Training - FARs 61.31(j) and §61.87 (c)

(Aerotow)

I certify that M ___________ has received the instruction required by FAR

61.31(j) and FAR 61.87(c) and (i) in a (Glider Type) and that he has
satisfactorily accomplished ground and flight training in aerotow
procedures
and operations and proficiency therein, has demonstrated proficiency in
the
applicable maneuvers and procedures included in FAR 61.87(i), and has
demonstrated adequate knowledge of flight rules listed in FAR Part 91
and
is
competent to make safe solo flights in that glider; provided that each
such
flight is carried out when the surface wind (steady or gusting) does not

exceed ___ kts and the crosswind component does not exceed ___ kts. This

approval is valid for the ___ days immediately following this endorsement

and provided such flights are conducted entirely within gliding range of
the
takeoff point.

Note: Ground and Self-Launch endorsement samples are found in the
"Additional Endorsements" section of this publication.



BT

"Nyal Williams" wrote in message
...
Someone beat me to it, and there are 19 of them -- i goofed.

To reiterate: print it out, keep it with your logbook, and urge your
instructor to focus on missing items, and to USE THE LANGUAGE OF THE
CFRs
in your logbook.

At 23:48 08 June 2008, BT wrote:

"Nyal Williams" wrote in message
...
snip

That said, there are 17 things that have to be entered by an
instructor
into your log book before it is legal to solo. The efficiency is to
carry
that list, post a flight number by the item covered, and wave the
list
in
front of your instructor to be sure all items are planned for ahead
of
time.

snip

Nyal.. would you care to list all 17 items?

BT