On Jun 20, 12:01*pm, Jim Logajan wrote:
wrote:
In rec.aviation.piloting Le Chaud Lapin wrote:
On Jun 19, 9:54?pm, Bob Noel
wrote:
[...]
What makes you think that software engineering, or system
engineering, has progressed to the point that a software intensive
system would be developed "with proper discipline"?

That's fair enough. Software, perhaps more than any other discpline,
allows engineers to place themselves where they are most comfortable
on the spectrum of intellectual discipline.
[...]
In any case, while process is important, the end result is most
important. *And the end result would be seen by many people, before
the aircraft is flown, so most defects would be recognized. *I would
imagine that there would be people who would criticize the
architecture for free.

From the perspective of dealing with software development for about
a quarter century now, all I can say is that it is obvious you know
**** from shinola about software development, reliability, and
testing.

Well I've been programming for 35 years and been getting paid to do it for
30, so by your own metric I am presumably in some sort of authoritative
position to judge your counter arguments to Lapin re software development.
But I somehow doubt you really want to know what I think of your arguments..
;-)

Please, do tell.

Being in software field, you know that there are people who have been
programming for 40 years whom you would not trust to design a flight
control computer that relies on advanced mathematics.

Obviously not saying that you are in that category. I'm merely saying
that I would look for other personal attributes beyond experience that
makes an engineer/designer predisposed to not make a mess, someone who
is acutely aware of the potential outcome of bad engineering. That
person might or might not have 35 years of experienece, but if I had
to choose between the Dutch guy mentioned above, who probably has
12-15 years experience,, and a random senior engineer with 40 years
experience, I would not hesitate to choose the Dutch guy, simply
because I already know that he possesses these attributes.

-Le Chaud Lapin-