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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

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Larry Dighera wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:43:48 -0500, Jim Logajan
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Jay Maynard wrote:
A vote for Bob Barr is a vote for Obama.

Either Obama or McCain will be elected. Voting for someone
else will simply take votes away from the candidate of the
two that you might find more acceptable.

Circular reasoning. When performed by persons untrained in
logic in IMC a graveyard spiral will result.

But, if you hadn't voted for Nader, who would be president now?

(Shudder) AlGore -- and we would STILL be grounded after
multiple post-9/11 attacks!


YOu have evidence of this, do you?

Fortunately, no,


Well, then.

since "Mr Green" did not become President. I can,
however, state that the Green movement is very anti-GA and that,
IMHO,


I'm green and very much pro GA



Then you need to talk to other Greens and find out THEIR opinion of
GA!


I know their opinion.



I am not anti-environment (few people are), but I look with a
jaundiced eye upon the Greens and the movement as a whole.


Well, there's one real good way to change that!



I fought many airport battles in California and can verify that the
most vicious lies came from the self-styled "protectors of the
environment," often backed by developer interests.

Then they're not really Greens, are they?

Sen. Barbara Boxer, for instance, did not want to turn Hamilton AFB to
the "hobby pilots" when it was surplussed. It went to a consortium of
her political cronies for real estate development.

Well, we are hobby pilots. So what? Amateur literally means "for the
love if" and if people don't do things for that reason what's the point
of doing anything?
What needs doing is education of people who don't understand what it is
that we do and the benifits that come from what we do.
Everone flies nowadays. It simply has to be put to them that aviation
does not grow out of a vacuum, and that many people, especially people
involved in experimental aviation, are at or near the core of new
propulsive technologies directly or indirectly. I've been involved in a
battle for a new airport where I used to live and that was pretty much
my testimony before the planners and the airport went ahead.

In San Jose, Supervisor Blanca Alvarado got ACORN involved in her
vendetta against Reid-Hillview Airport. We found out about her plan to
bus hundreds of rent-a-mob demonstrators to a Board of Supervisors
meeting and got our own people there early. Her mob had to stand in
the lobby and could not disrupt the meeting.


BTW -- ACORN is the same organization that Obama represented in
ChicGO.


So what? These people are out there and theyre not going away. They do a
lot of good too. Developers would put tar on eveything for a buck if
they were allowed to. Someone has to stop them or there would be nothing
left to fly over for us to admire!
Education is the key here and it's guys like you who can do it!



Bertie