In article ,
(robert arndt) wrote:

http://www.flyingmachines.org/jatho.html

Another aviation pioneer who flew in 1903

....in an uncontrolled aircraft, with an engine about 1/3 the power it
needed to really fly.

You're going to start quoting Baron Munchausen next, right?

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Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.