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Old September 21st 08, 07:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Do CAP members salute?

On Sep 20, 6:50*pm, "Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote:
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They're supposed to, but in fact a large percentage of CAP personell are
as
crazy as bedbugs and are only there because they're not qualified to be a
security gaurd in a mall.


Bertie


I hate to admit it but Bertie is right on with this one..


I tried the local CAP to be helpful, find and hopefully save a
life. * Turned out they are a group of military wanna be's who have
control of a AirForce owned plane and dictate who can play in their
sandbox. First, that plane belongs to ALL of us, they have strick
rules like, " a member needs to be height/weight proportionate. The
state commander was a walking heart attack and at my first and only
SAREX, 90% of the group was 300 lbs +. So much for rules G. The last
straw was their overwhelming desire for protocal, If I am going to
risk my life looking for missing people and planes I would expect them
to respect the general population and give some leeway in the fact
that all volunteer citizans don't have time to go home, get dressed in
their approved monkey suits and meet at the office to start a search.
Hell by that time the party we are looking for are dead !!! *And look
at their safety record... Dismal at best. If I am going to get killed
it sure as hell ain't gonna be by some uniform wearing low time
assholes..... Let's see. *the Wyoming wing of the Cival Air Patrol has
in the last couple of years has killed 4 humans, destroyed two
perfectly good planes, both by total stupidity.. I have been flying
and have yet to even put a single scratch on anything but I seem to be
not qualified to fly their,-- oops, our planes. To be fair there is a
few good guys and gals in the CAP, *but,,,,,,,,the VAST majority
though are as Bertie puts it " crazy as bedbugs"


risk. Of the crashes you mentioned, all involved very experienced and
competent pilots. Perhaps they did do something stupid, but if you think
you are smarter than they were, or a better pilot, you have the type of
attitude that often leads to a smoking crater at the end of your flying
career.-



You obviously are not very well informed. The first fatal accident in
N9928H was flown by Fletcher Anderson, who wrote a book on safe flying
and mountian flying. This was not his first accident either. While
flying through the Snake river canyon south of Jackson Wy he hit a
cable that crosses the river. A cable they use to measure the river
level. That said cable was 17.3 feet above the surface. The altitude
he was supposed to be at in that area was around 4000 feet higher,
competent ?? you better start smoking something better. The other CAP
pilot was supposably a CAP mountian fury course instructor who spun in
and took two other lives with him, and started a forest fire. That was
the only thing he did correctly though. They found the wreckage and
bodies by following the smoke. Competent ? highly improbable... I have
been flying almost 30 years, owned several planes and didn't join the
CAP for a free ride or to fly missions the next day. I have my own
plane and in fact my own airport, I don't need the CAP to leach off of
for my flying enjoyment, the vast majority of CAP members don't own an
aircraft. ! If you are going to defend the CAP flight safety record
you better inform yourself in a timely matter before making statements
like "very experienced and competent".

Cheers and tailwinds.