The "individual" posting from Germany, is the owner of Glaser Dirks. I would say that indicates a willingness to support
the brand even when the aircraft in question is not one Glaser Dirks built.

Particularly since , as he pointed ,out the aircraft in question is built by an unrelated company that purchased the
rights and moulds for the design. DGs only interest in this is some reputational risk, because the aircraft built by AMS
are recognised as DG designs. Apparently Mr Weber is prepared to go to a lot of trouble to help.

Your problem, as ever appears to be over active bureaucracy in the land of the free. If it is any consolation we have
the same problem in the Third World, aggravated by incompetence and arrogance. We have the CAA here refusing to accept
EASA Type certification, apparently some half qualified (non aviator, non aero) engineer knows more about this than EASA
or Schleicher, or Schempp-Hirth or Glaser Dirks... The problems vary but the source of the problems are remarkably
consistent.

Bruce

Tech Support wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 08:21:29 -0700 (PDT), Frank Whiteley
wrote:

On Oct 18, 1:03 am, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Oct 17, 10:47 pm, Frank Whiteley wrote:



On Oct 17, 5:06 pm, NG wrote:
We imported a DG-505 Elan Orion built at the AMS Flight, d.o.o. (AMS)
factory in Slovenia in 2006. It came with a Slovenian Certificate of
Airworthiness and an AMS data plate. It was built under a German
Standard Airworthiness Certificate which designates AMS in Slovenia as
the manufacturer. DG is the owner of the European Standard Flight
Certificate.
At the time of import the U.S. Standard Type Certificate designated
the DG factory in Germany as the only acceptable manufacturer making
no mention of AMS in Slovenia. To correct this situation the Small
Aircraft Directorate at the FAA for gliders rewrote the type
certificate to make AMS in Slovenia an acceptable manufacturer. This
in part allowed the glider to receive a U.S. Standard Airworthiness
Certificate.
Also the glider did not have a German certificate of airworthiness but
only a Slovenian certificate of airworthiness. AMS had not sent the
aircraft to Germany to receive a German certificate of airworthiness.
The FAA was initially demanding a German airworthiness certificate but
again the FAA directorate modified the U.S. certificate to make any
EASA (the new European Union aviation administration) member nation as
an acceptable supplier of an airworthiness certificate. Because
Slovenia was on the cusp of being a member of EASA in 2006 (and now is
a full member) the designated airworthiness representative granted the
U.S. Standard Airworthiness Certificate.
Now 2 years later the FAA has told us its own actions were a mistake
and is about to revoke the standard airworthiness certificate if we do
not relinquish it freely. The FAA is saying that the changes to the
U.S. certificate that were made by the directorate in Kansas City were
in error. They are indicating that they did not realize that Elan
aircraft were not built in Germany and because the FAA has no
bilateral agreement (BASA) with Slovenia the certificate must be
relinquished.
Can the FAA do this at this late date? DG and AMS have not been
willing to resolve this issue and have basically said that the only
alternative is for us to ship the aircraft back to Germany and have
the aircraft reissued at our own expense.
Thanks for any help!
N505LG
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N505LG

As I read posting from individual in Germany (DG) they will still
reactivate the procedure to send an inspector to you here in US and
inspect bird and issue DE certification.

From a dollar and time point of view vs shipping bird back to DE for
inspection (and possible damage shipping which would be more out of
pocket) I'd look closely to bringing inspector over and tie up the
problem and get back in the air without any revocation hanging over ur
shoulders.

You can fight the Govt but may in end lose and have to try to fall
back on DG inspector (if they are still willing to help at that time).
They may keep the current offer open only for a reasonable time???

Fly safe

Big John