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Old November 17th 08, 02:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Richard[_1_]
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Default Glider flight software on non PDA devices- soon.

On Nov 16, 10:51*pm, brianDG303 wrote:
Lots of us run flight software on a PDA and complain about the dim and
hard to read screen and can't help noticing those big bright GPS's we
get to drive around with. It looks like SeeYou Mobile will soon run on
some GPS platforms and it's now in beta running on the HP IPAQ 310
(Travel Companion) family.

These are available for $180 factory refurbished or for $225 new.
There are a ton of reviews to google and I'm not going to repeat that
information here, but a few things- the overall size of the 310 is a
little smaller than my IPAQ 3970 but the screen is a little bigger.
The 310 is a landscape only display and measures 94mm wide by 58mm
tall.

*Screen brightness- The 310 is 4x the brightness of the IPAQ 3970 and
the same brightness as most other automotive GPS’s. There are other
advantages to the 310 over a PDA, the anti reflective coating is state
of the art so no aftermarket glare film is needed, and those cut the
light output by at least 16%. The crispness and contrast of the
screen, which is off the charts, help a lot. And the easy to adjust
mount combined with fair off-angle viewing allows the unit to be
adjusted to an angle that will minimize glare.

Other news of interest: already an outfit in Europe has connected an
HP 310 running SYM 3.1 beta to FLARM via a serial to bluetooth
adapter, there is a link to a video of this, as well as a link to a
comparison photo of SYM on a 310 and a PDA on the Naviter forum site.

PocketFMS, PDA flight software for powered flight, is ahead of
everyone else in this game and have a longer list of PNA's that will
run ported software. This will give a clue as to which PNA's are good
candidates for this conversion in the long run and what attributes
they'll have. The firmware (I think that is the limitation) of each
PNA's version of WindowsCE determines some of the features. (I don't
know much about operating systems and am on shakey ground here,
corrections invited) For instance, The 310 display runs in landscape
mode as opposed to PDA's portrait, and for flight software it seems
like portrait is better. The firmware (or whatever) of the 310 does
not allow it to be run in portrait, other PNA's will. The PocketFMS
people use the bluetooth connection to integrate ZAON traffic alerts
so this is another possibility for gliders.

Brian


Brian,

I have a Ipaq 310 running SeeYou Mobile. SeeYou Mobile runs from the
SD Card so you can still use the Street Map Software on the 310. The
screen visibility in my opinion in direct sunlight is no better that
the Ipaq 55xx or 47xx. It has VGA resolution like the Ipaq 4700. You
can tilt the instrument to reduce the glare, but you can also do that
with the Ipaq 4700. The program runs well because of the 600 mHz
processor. I also have concerns as the 310 only has a landscape mode.
You cannot see very far ahead. I checked with HP to see about
Portrait. They said NO. Maybe they will change in the future. I
beleive it is an excellent cost effective option for those that don't
have a GPS. Its internal GPS runs fine in the Auto and should do well
in a glider. Unfortunately it does not have a serial port only USB so
maybe a USB to serial converter may work.

I will be adding mounts and cable kits to my website so you can power
the 310 from your glider battery.

If you really want to see the screen please see the Craggy Aero
Ultimate.

http://www.craggyaero.com/ultimate.htm


Thanks,

Richard
www.craggyaero.com