On Jan 25, 3:21*pm, Papa3 wrote:
On Jan 25, 3:43*pm, wrote:

If understood UH correctly in other thread, COTS loggers *will* be
permitted in 09 as backup for regionals and nats, with exception of
contenders for US team.

Rules are not yet posted...

What would you recommend for cheap, reliable backup to 302? *I have a
garmin hand held, but it stores only 2048 points and has no obvious
way to dump a log to a pc.

-T8

For one, a Garmin GPSMap 76. It stores 10,000 track points, can be
managed using either SeeYou (commercial software) or G7toWin
(freeware), and is rugged as all hell. *In *pinch, it provides enough
information in one self-contained unit (including on-board batteries)
to get you home and get you a score if everything else goes to
hell. * *You can find them for about $100 used.

P3

Sorry guys, go to the SSA racing site and lookup the 2009 proposed
racing rules changes. I fly with a Themi as primary logger, and use
my SN10 as a backup (with SeeYou Mobile as my last backup). Last year
this was OK, but this year at the 15M nats my SN10 is now going to be
a "Substandard" (!!!) logger, and only good for one day if my Themi
fails. And like Chip, there is no way I'm going to risk losing 100
points a day just because some trons get lost. So I'm making plans to
borrow a Volkslogger as a backup (I'm lucky that my club has one
sitting around).

While I can understand this requirement; it seems the security
requirement could be met by requiring two independent backup loggers -
hard to imagine someone wanting to cheat so bad that he would go to
the trouble of hacking both a PDA and a COTS GPS! As long as at least
one contest flight had a valid logger trace, why penalize a contestant
for a hardware failure out of his control?

Suggestion - anyone out there not using their "real" IGC logger, offer
to lend yours to your local neighborhood racing junkie when he goes to
the Nats - bet he'll buy you a beer if you do (and a lot more if he
ends up using it!).

As far as the new "Start anywhere, almost, kinda" rule, well, I think
it's a bogus complication trying to fix a problem that doesn't really
exist, and it really reminds me of the "add 15 minutes to your TAT
time" rule of a few years ago. But I can live with it - I'll just have
to make sure I'm well into the "front half" of the start circle to
start. Not really hard with a good moving map display - unlucky if
you don't have one!

Now if we could just get the software guys to catch up with our moving
map software, we'd be getting somewhere!

Cheers!

Kirk
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