robert arndt wrote:

"Nick Pedley" wrote in message ...
"KC" wrote in message
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Thanks guys.
The story that is in our discussion is that the Soviets built and flew the
183 one source claims 6 were built. His proof is this highly suspect black
&
while photo of the Huck landing.

Please take a look at the (hobby) link I have posted for the picture a
tell
me what you think.

http://m2reviews.cnsi.net/reviews/ax.../kuster183.htm

Thanks

My money's on that being a Soviet build or a very good fake pic.

Nick

Sorry, it is neither. It is a German flying model, one of Focke-Wulf
Bad Eilsen's as evidenced by the Design II features (especially the
tail). For similar "in-flight/on ground" model photos look up Ar.
E.381, He P.1077 Julia, Me-265, and Me P.1112. The only German
aircraft that were built/completed in the USSR postwar were some of
the Ju EF-series (126,131,140,150), Ju-248, and the DFS 346. Of these,
only the EF 126 and DFS 346 were purely German.
The Soviets got their Ta 183 plans from the RLM office in Berlin.
Although heavily influenced by the Ta 183 the MiG S/I-310 prototypes
were not German-built.

There was little direct influence of the Ta183 on MiG efforts,
especially the MiG 15, but it did closely parallel and assist Lagg
efforts. Though the eventual Lagg 15 could be considered a production
adaption of the '183, being very similar in features, it could also be
more a matter of convergent evolution, as the intended roles were very
similar. Overall, the '183 was likely more of a supplemental validation
of on going Russian design work that a direct item to be copied, as some
features pre-date access to the German work.

As to the '183 itself, I was under the impression that work was well
underway on at least one, if not three prototypes by the end of the
war(?) as some sources claim a time line of flight tests intended for
summer of '45 (?)